Basically I have ZOINTS installed my on vB forum. I'm trying to cut the SEO words down like DP has, see how this thread ONLY shows the title thread and nothing else. Thats whay I want to do. Remove $vbphrase[x_powered_by_vbulletin] and $vboptions[bbtitle] in Templates FORUMHOME, FORUMDISPLAY, SHOWTHREAD, MEMBERINFO, SHOWTHREAD_SHOWPOST Someone said do something along those lines, but that would leave me with nothing wouldn't it? brad