SEO Strategy: Is Wikipedia Selfish?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Bohol, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. #1
    They say that if your site is listed in Wikipedia, you'll get cloud 9 PR. Huh!
    But Wikipedia's external links are "nofollow."

    Do you think Wikipedia is selfish?
     
    Bohol, Jan 18, 2008 IP
  2. budhanes

    budhanes Peon

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    I don't. The spam would run rampat there if they didn't. Also, they have alot invested in the site to be passing out so much link juice. Somewhere on the web, I found a site that had a list of the most frequent links on Wikipidia. I cant remember where it was though. I know findagrave.com was quite frequent. My understanding is that if a link is valid, it will stick, otherwise it will get deleted. Not a bad philosophy in my book.
     
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  3. zeruel

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    Not really... Wikipedia has a quality and pure content. That's why SE's love to crawl their pages often.
     
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  4. Sam 735

    Sam 735 Well-Known Member

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    #4
    Why should you gain to put your link on Wikipedia...?
     
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  5. uniqueasitis

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    Possible traffic.
     
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  6. Philopoemen

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    #6
    I tried a couple of times putting my relevant links on some Wikipedia pages, however, because my sites are private, not governmental or stuff like that, they usually get deleted. But still, getting a couple of PR 5-7 backlinks is great, even if no-follow.
     
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  7. Markas

    Markas Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that they are selfish.
    They do not even put ads on their site to earn money... :D
     
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  8. Bohol

    Bohol Peon

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    #8
    One blogger claims that Wikipedia has 100 Billion US dollars from donations.
     
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  9. thunderbolt007

    thunderbolt007 Active Member

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    Wikipedia is so wise that they dont want their juice be passed to another....But the popularity of it brings it to the top...
     
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  10. Bohol

    Bohol Peon

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    #10
    Wikipedia should be compassionate to webmasters.
     
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  11. gr8liverpoolfan

    gr8liverpoolfan Notable Member

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    They'd be inviting spam if they changed their existing setup. It is not about being compassionate or selfish, it is simply about taking steps to ensure that the site doesn't suffer in terms of quality.

    How would you like to see viagra and phentermine links in a webmaster article ?
     
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  12. Bohol

    Bohol Peon

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    #12
    But Wikipedia is so sweeping. It should separate the wheat and the chaff, the boys from men.
    There are good sites, there are bad sites. Good sites should be given juices.
     
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  13. bomberman

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    Right, a big chances that you can gain traffic if your site is listed there..
     
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  14. EzBusinessNeeds.com

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    Wikipedia give my site hundreds of visitors daily after my site was included into their external links permanently.
    I do understand that if you insert links, wikipedia will delete it accordingly. However, if your link points to pages that provide relevant content and help, they will make it permanent on their site. My site for instance has around 9 links on wikipedia.
     
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  15. Pixelrage

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    my site had about 20 pages listed for almost a year, then they were moderated down to only 2 left (not to mention, they were picked up by all of the Wikipedia scraper sites). The traffic I was getting equaled my Google natural search numbers almost every day.

    Wikipedia went from allowing pages with unique/helpful content, to pages with unique/helpful content that have no ads whatsoever on them (which is like .05% of internet sites).
     
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  16. willyboy104

    willyboy104 Active Member

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    I am currently only listed on one page on wikipedia and for that one page i get about 10 views a day.

    Will.
     
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  17. Vic_mackey

    Vic_mackey Banned

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    #17
    Not related really, but what I would like to see is an option in your google login to block certain domains from appearing in your search results. I'm getting annoyed seeing Wikipedia rank first for absolutely everything. I'd happily block it so I dont need to see it again.

    edit - a little test here I'm going to search for 10 random items and see how many wiki ranks for. brb :D

    ok all searches done on Google UK.

    Apple cider - ranking 1 & 2

    John Grisham - ranking 2nd, only behind official site

    Electricity - ranking 1

    Rolex - ranking 3rd

    Peanuts - ranking 2nd

    Ok I'm bored now so Ill stop at 5. All I can say is down with wikipedia!

    I would never link to wiki, and if for some reason I was forced too, it would certainly be a nofollow (which I never use).
     
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  18. budhanes

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    #18

    You are right. Wikipidia will be a challenge to just about every webmaster trying to obtain top spot! Wikipidia is a very fomidable challenger!
     
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  19. bigbluesky2006

    bigbluesky2006 Active Member

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    #19
    I love Wikipedia and don't think they're selfish at all. :)
     
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  20. Bohol

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    #20
    In the point of webmasters, yes, it is.
     
    Bohol, Jan 18, 2008 IP