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Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by TheWebJunkie, Mar 14, 2005.

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  1. #1
    Hello dp i know why google isnt indexing my new site, because in the "source" of the site there should be something like this

    Example

    
 <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>info vilesilencer: the SEO friendly free directory list</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache">
<meta name="description" content="info vilesilencer: the SEO friendly free directory list">
<meta name="keywords" content="seo friendly, free directory list, directories, reciprocal directory, reciprocal directories, PR, pagerank, page rank, website promotion, css rollover tutorial, seo resources, vilesilencer, maintain the rage, digital photography, designed with the geek in mind, user agent list, add url, submit site, suggest site, free search engine submission, directory list, seo forum, webdesign forum, revolver, redline, shintara, iserv, search engine optimisation, webmaster resources, wicked weasel, chillum, pilsbot, tripod, telstra, bigpond">
<meta name="robots" content="index,follow">
<meta name="copyright" content="1999 - 2005 dan aka revolver. All rights reserved">
<meta name="author" content="revolver">
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="says.css">
</head>
    Code (markup):
    As you can see in my site there isnt, what would i need to add?
    
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>SigTraders.com - Earn Money With Your forum Sig!</TITLE>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<link href="basecode.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
    Code (markup):

     
    TheWebJunkie, Mar 14, 2005 IP
  2. yfs1

    yfs1 User Title Not Found

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    #2
    <meta name="robots" content="index,follow">


    Thats a joke. It does nothing.

    You don't need to have all that stuff in order for any of the SEs to index you. Just get lots of links (like the Coop Network or 100s of other ways) and you will be indexed.
     
    yfs1, Mar 14, 2005 IP
  3. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #3
    I will agree with you accept the site (If it's the sig) Will probably not have any weight with the Co op, which won't really help this guy develop ibl's. But I agree that he needs quality bl's...however he does it.
     
    Homer, Mar 14, 2005 IP
  4. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #4
    Do include a meta description though. Very important to pull in visitors.
     
    T0PS3O, Mar 14, 2005 IP
  5. TheWebJunkie

    TheWebJunkie Banned

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    #5
    i was told by someone on sitepoint to use this

    
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<TITLE>SigTraders.com - Earn Money With Your forum Sig!</TITLE>
<meta name="description" content="enter description of your site here">
<meta name="keywords" content="enter keywords found on your page here.">
<link href="basecode.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
    Code (markup):
     
    TheWebJunkie, Mar 14, 2005 IP
  6. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #6
    Indeed, I often see the meta desription shown word for word in SERP's. I have also found that if you have your strongest keyword/ keyphrase in position 1 in description, keywords and title it appears more strength is gained.
     
    Homer, Mar 14, 2005 IP
  7. dazzlindonna

    dazzlindonna Peon

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    #7
    The information you got from sitepoint is fine - but it still won't solve your problem. As others have said in previous posts - GET BACKLINKS. It is the golden key for the doorway of which you desire to enter, young buck.
     
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  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #8 
    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
    Code (markup):
    This is incomplete. The correct form is
    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
    Code (markup):
    <meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache">
    Code (markup):
    In most cases this is unnecessary and may backfire.

    <meta name="robots" content="index,follow">
    Code (markup):
    Also unnecessary -- what it says is "Spiders... do what you were going to do anyway".

    <meta name="copyright" content="1999 - 2005 dan aka revolver. All rights reserved">
<meta name="author" content="revolver">
    Code (markup):
    These don't do anything except waste space.
     
    minstrel, Mar 14, 2005 IP
  9. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #9
    Cheers Minstrel, I was just about to say that a DTD (!DOCTYPE) can help with the spiders and is best practice anyhow, but you got in there before me :). TWJ you should add a description, to the META as it is still used, and I would add a keywords META also but keep the keywords absolutely spcific to the page it represents. The rest is just dross, and will do nothing. I never use them and have no problems so far.

    But the key to getting spidered (assuming your links are spiderable of course) is to give the spider a reason to do so, and this of course means links into your site.
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Mar 15, 2005 IP
  10. loki

    loki Peon

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    #10
    possibly being a little control freaky, but these days it won't hurt to run your site through the w3cvalidator here http://validator.w3.org/detailed.html
     
    loki, Mar 15, 2005 IP
  11. TheWebJunkie

    TheWebJunkie Banned

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    #11
    Could someone give me the correct code to use please :)
     
    TheWebJunkie, Mar 16, 2005 IP
  12. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #12
    You actually had it almost correct in the SitePoint example:

    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>SigTraders.com - Earn Money With Your forum Sig!</TITLE>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="description" content="enter description of your site here">
<meta name="keywords" content="enter keywords found on your page here.">
<link href="basecode.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
    Code (markup):
    The other components suggested by "dan/vilesilencer' are either unnecessary or potentially could hurt rather than help -- leave them out.

    As for the DOCTYPE declaration, as I indicated it should actually have the URL reference as follows (although it isn't critical):

    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
    Code (markup):
    Without that URL, most browsers will revert to "quirks" mode to render the pages. Is that bad? Not necessarily -- depends on the coding of your page. However, using the correct syntax this would yield the following:

    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>SigTraders.com - Earn Money With Your forum Sig!</TITLE>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="description" content="enter description of your site here">
<meta name="keywords" content="enter keyword phrases for your page here and then make sure they are actually used on the page.">
<link href="basecode.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
    Code (markup):
    You should add some additional search terms to your <TITLE> and, while the keywords meta tag is by now almost archaic, it probably isn't a bad idea to include it -- make sure that the keywords you use in the keywords meta tag also appear in the page content.
     
    minstrel, Mar 16, 2005 IP
  13. TheWebJunkie

    TheWebJunkie Banned

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    #13
    hey minstrel i think i have done this rite, but i get errors

    [​IMG]
     
    TheWebJunkie, Mar 16, 2005 IP
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    Is your site being indexed by the other engines? I found that google is slower then msn and yahoo. If you're being indexed there, you're probably just fine. google bites with how slow it can be sometimes :)
     
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  15. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #15
    What errors are you getting exactly?

    I do see some coding errors even in that snippet. Can you upload the "weird" page to your server so I can look at the source? (give it a name like "test.php" or "index_mod.php").
     
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  16. TheWebJunkie

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    [​IMG]
     
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  17. minstrel

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    WbJunkie -- posting those large screenshots don't really help me -- text of the code for the "bad" page would be better -- a link to the "bad" page would be even better so I could do a view source.
     
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  19. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    WebJunkie -- to me that page doesn't look weird at all -- it displays just like the "before I added the code" screenshot in Internet Explorer.

    However, you have this in the code:

    <TITLE>SigTraders.com - Earn Money With Your forum Sig!</TITLE>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="description" content="enter description of your site here">
<meta name="keywords" content="enter keyword phrases for your page here and then make sure they are actually used on the page.">
    Code (markup):
    Change to something like:
    <TITLE>Signature trading - text links - signature advertising program - forum signatures - earn money from forum sigs - SigTraders.com</TITLE>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="description" content="Earn money with this free forum signature advertising program - put text links in your forum signatures.">
<meta name="keywords" content="forum signature exchange, text link, signature trading, targeted advertising,  forum signature advertising exchange">
    Code (markup):
     
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  20. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #20
    In the view source for that page I see:

    <script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
<br />
<b>Warning</b>:  session_start(): Cannot send session cookie - headers already sent by (output started at /home2/webjunki/public_html/index_mod.php:7) in <b>/home2/webjunki/public_html/header.php</b> on line <b>1</b><br />
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<b>Warning</b>:  session_start(): Cannot send session cache limiter - headers already sent (output started at /home2/webjunki/public_html/index_mod.php:7) in <b>/home2/webjunki/public_html/header.php</b> on line <b>1</b><br />
    Code (markup):
    Not sure what that script was -- it's not visible in the view source but there's an error there.

    Then right after that I see this -- a second set of <html><head> tags :

    <HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>SigTraders.com - Earn Money With Your forum Sig!</TITLE>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<link href="basecode.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
<!--
function MM_swapImgRestore() { //v3.0
  var i,x,a=document.MM_sr; for(i=0;a&&i<a.length&&(x=a[i])&&x.oSrc;i++) x.src=x.oSrc;
}

function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
  var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
    var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
    if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
}
    Code (markup):
    It looks to me like you added the new HTML code at the top of the page instead of using it to replace the original. Take out this second part -- i.e., delete the following lines which come after that javascript error:

    <HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>SigTraders.com - Earn Money With Your forum Sig!</TITLE>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<link href="basecode.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
    Code (markup):
    Addendum:

    Better still, check for a Private Message: I'll send you my email address -- attach the index_mod.php file and email it back to me.
     
    minstrel, Mar 17, 2005 IP
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