SEO: Let's Boil It Down to THIS Simple Formula . . .

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by jewel3000, Aug 17, 2010.

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    I don't ever see people address these two aspects of SEO strategies. What do you think is the truth/best practice?

    This is regarding my copywriting services website, and here are my SEO thoughts & questions:

    1. In a day or two, I'm going to have someone on DP put an article I wrote on about 100 directory sites.

    Will I be penalized by Google? The guy says I WON'T, but I'm a little concerned about how the Duplicate Content Penalty really works. He says that as long as I don't put the article on Ezine or my own site, the 100 directories he'll add it to won't be a problem.

    Is this true?

    A separate question . . .

    2. Should I expect to see a little bump up in the Google SERPs from having 100 article directories link to my copywriting services site? Or will I probably need to write a 2nd or 5th or 10th article using these EXACT SAME KEYWORDS before I see my site rise higher on Google's SERPs???

    What's the bottom line on these issues?!
     
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    jewel3000, Aug 17, 2010 IP
  2. CherryV

    CherryV Active Member

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    1. Your website will not be penalized. Dont worry even if they submit to 100 sites the links will not be indexed at the same time. Duplicate content will not effect the main purpose of backlink.

    2. One article maybe a little movement if your Onsite SEO is good. I would say articles 3-5 will probably notice more action.
     
    CherryV, Aug 17, 2010 IP
  3. monfis

    monfis Well-Known Member

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    Dup content penalization does not exist. The dups will just not rank as well as the original - usually.
     
    monfis, Aug 18, 2010 IP
  4. mike_hustler

    mike_hustler Peon

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    for observing SERP ranking on google your should have unique content.other wise there is less probability of high ranking of your article.where as backlinks are concerned it would not be penalized because there is no asurity whether the directory submits the article or not.
     
    mike_hustler, Aug 18, 2010 IP
  5. jewel3000

    jewel3000 Peon

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    That's great news - thanks!!

    @CherryV - You provided crucial into I just don't see when everyone talks SEO & article marketing. :) I'm going to first focus on about 6 keyword/phrases, using this article directory service this time plus 2 more times. Hopefully, that'll help me get to the first page, even if at the bottom.

    Note: I'll also do some Squidoo lenses, HubPags, and other quality link building to help make it happen.

    @Monfis - So, really, it sounds like you're saying I could/should go ahead and let EzineArticles publish each of my new articles FIRST. And then, let the article directory service copy it to his 100 smaller directories... and there'll be no penalty?!
     
    jewel3000, Aug 19, 2010 IP
  6. ArnoldBlack

    ArnoldBlack Peon

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    actually dupes can rank higher than the original :-(
     
    ArnoldBlack, Aug 19, 2010 IP
  7. leunam

    leunam Peon

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    its ok to submit on 100 directory sites but make sure it have a unique content, if youre getting difficult to rewrite it use a 'Article Spinner'

    yes, it sure that you get some bump from big G and Y!, but not that much and it sometimes it take time before it is crawl.

    last tip, just pick the top 100 article directory site, high PR and allowed links or anchor text.
     
    leunam, Aug 20, 2010 IP
  8. jewel3000

    jewel3000 Peon

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    Excellent tips, leunam - thanks!!

    I'll definitely ask these questions before I give anybody money to put my articles on sites.

    I asked the guy doing this service if he used article spinning software, his answer didn't make a lot of sense. He said, "Yes, I have article spinner, but that's not what I'll use to make changes to all your articles."

    YET: 1) He didn't say he does this "manually", but 2) spent a lot of time assuring me that no article ever got kicked off of EzineArticle for a duplicate content penalty.

    So bottom line is he isn't being exactly forthright with me. He must plan to put same article everywhere.
     
    jewel3000, Aug 20, 2010 IP
  9. Internet Marketing IQ

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    Google doesn't penalize they filter. The same article can not rank #1 a hundred times over. So ask yourself this: Why would Google want to return your article more than 1 time in any given search.

    Users don't want to see the same article 100x.

    So they filter it out and show one copy on what they believe is the most relevant site.

    That is NOT a penalty.
     
    Internet Marketing IQ, Aug 21, 2010 IP
  10. jewel3000

    jewel3000 Peon

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    Aha! Internet Marketing IQ, what you said makes 1000% sense. :)

    Sure, it's nice to get some traffic referred from all the other article directories. But the more unique each article is, there's the real benefit.
     
    jewel3000, Aug 21, 2010 IP
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    valvetak47 Peon

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    First of all, I would define SEO as non shell game where nothing can be guaranteed as 100% and there is nothing like penalization for duplicate content but you won't rank your all pages at top for having duplicate content.
     
    valvetak47, Aug 22, 2010 IP
  12. ArnoldBlack

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    in the news.google results u often see the same press release multiple times, perhaps the on page layout changes are enough to fool google even though 99% of the text on each version is the same or maybe teh rest of the text on the page unrelated to the release is enough to make it seem unique.
     
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    how do you suggest spreading the same article under the radar par say...
     
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    Seqqa Well-Known Member

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    There's a lot of dup content out there due to the rise in autoblogs and RSS feeds, for this reason penalization of one does not exist in my opinion. I believe that Google out of all the websites it indicates with dup content it trys to work out which is the most likely candidate for the content to originate from and and in turn give that site a higher SERP for that article above the rest.
     
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  15. jewel3000

    jewel3000 Peon

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    @seqqa -- you're absolutely right. Maybe we're making ourself a little crazy worrying about dup content, when everyone who reads top results on Google actually sees duplicates of the same AP story, press release, etc. featured on multiple sites. ha!
     
    jewel3000, Aug 23, 2010 IP
  16. super556

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    well that's a good news..
     
    super556, Aug 23, 2010 IP