SEO is just common sense

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by minstrel, Dec 13, 2005.

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    Matt Cutts on SEO

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  2. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    That's the beautiful irony of it all ;)
     
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    Dirkjan The Dutch SEO Guy

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    Whats new in that? Seo is not some dark magic thing. Still companies rarely want to invest time in it themself and its easy for them to have it done for a relatively small price.
     
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    That explains why my magic wand hasn't done a thing for me. :eek:
     
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    SiteExpress Well-Known Member

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    That is great information. If people would just build a site for people, and not necessarily search engines, their SEO is almost complete.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    common sense and thousands of backlinks
     
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  7. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    which is itself commonsense. People choose retail locations based on foot traffic, well backlinks are the internets version of foot traffic.
     
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  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    I agree, Sarah. As long as they aren't fake footprints. And that's where the battle against paid links, link farms, and the like comes in - authenticating the footprints.
     
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  9. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    I don't know about link farms, per se, but I submit to a heck of alot of directories via solicitations and announcements here at digitalpoint. I see that as trying to move my "market stall" closer to the main traffic areas of the market. If my market banter is loudest people might actually stop by my stall & take a look.
     
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    profs77 Well-Known Member

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    SEO common sense? I created a site, which doesn't have hidden text and other stuff that would make it fit into a SPAM category. It uses meta tags and I used Google's Sitemap and it still doesn't exist in google's index. The site is http://www.investorsvision.com Where did I go wrong?:confused:
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    It exists: http://www.google.com/search?q=investorsvision.com it's probably just quite new (http://www.whois.sc/investorsvision.com) - only 3 months, give it time. Xenu only found one broken link - and your email address - so you're in good shape. By all means ask for a site review but here's one immediate problem
    <h1 id="siteName"><img src="images/logo4.png">
    Code (markup):
    No alt tag, and no closing </h1> tag.

    good luck in the next update. i'm waiting anxiously too!
     
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  12. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    New site?

    Actually, your site IS indexed - just that you don't have a lot of pages indexed yet (okay, just 1 so far):

    http://www.google.com/search?source...05-35,GGLG:en&q=site:www.investorsvision.com/

    More inportantly, I can't find ANY backlinks to your site so far - find some directories to submit to and work on remedying that problem.

    This is another one that should be in site review but here goes:

    Your site is REALLY slow to load - that fancy flash header may look good on high speed connections but on dial-up it's a pig and it won't contribute anything to your SE rankings (at the very least, insert <noflash> content for the spiders and browsers without Flash). Add to that the flash image below that on the left which has to load a whole slide show and you are turning away visitors, even those with high speed connections, who just don't want to wait for all that crap to load. Consider making the home page simple and move the slow fancy stuff to an inner page for AFTER you've caught the visitor's attention.

    Have a look at your site at 800 x 600 resolution: your "click here" ad (top-ish right) overlaps your page headline.

    Your title sucks: This is "prime real estate" on a web page - make it mean something - add in search terms that someone might actually use to find your site:

    <title>Investor's Vision</title>
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    Then you have a bunch of meta tags that are either wasting space or may even harm you with some SEs:

    <meta http-equiv="Expires" content="Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:55:50 GMT">
    Code (markup):
    This one basically says, "After September 27, 2005, please ignore this page completely".

    <link rev="made" href="mailto:sam.chugtai@gmail.com">[/quote]
    Unnecessary, unless you like providing your email address to spammers.
    
    [code]<meta name="keywords" content="sales, marketing, house, market, hotel, management, manager, property, rental, rent, collection, eviction, lawyer, investment, investor, investors, 
    process, request, a, the, asdf, quote, contact, sam, chugtai, steven, johal, vision, high, tech, india, usa, china, canada, google, brokerage, cb, cbe, ellis, macdonald, commercial, 
    residential, home, auto, automated, automatic, extranet, system, systematic, cash, cash-flow, increased, high, money, sell, sales, real estate, relations, relationships, partners, 
    customer, customers, accounting, reporting, leverage, operations, operational, costs, lower, effective, resource, time, chain, call, alerts, sms, text, phone, email, e-mail, 
    satisfaction, guaranteed, lanmark, pma, advisory, initial, roi, financial data, real, real-time, occupancy, vacancy, method, methodology, strategy, business, development, construction, 
    bpo, space, expert, expertise, mp3, free, download">
    Code (markup):
    Probably ignored by most SEs but Holy Keyword Stuffing, Batman! :eek:

    <meta name="author" content="Sam Chugtai">
    <meta name="ROBOTS" content="ALL">
    <meta name="no-email-collection" value="http://www.unspam.com/noemailcollection" />
    
    Code (markup):
    Just wasting space.

    Your top nav links are not spider friendly - some sort of scripting?

    The bottom nav links are spider friendly but the one that says "Site Map" doesn't go anywhere except back to page top.

    You have some cleanup to do in your code... stuff like this:

    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
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    Make sure all your images have alt="descriptive search term relevant to the image" :

    <img src="images/investors_vision.gif" />
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    That'll do for starters.
     
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    here is a site that talks about website optimization. tells everything you can do for simple common sense SEO. Lots of tutorials and such.

    www.optimizingwebsite.com
     
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  14. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    profs77 Well-Known Member

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    Wow thanks alot for all the free support. I clicked on someone's adsense banner in return. It was also relevant to the subject. Design changes though beneficial would have to be cleared for the client who I created the site for. It was all from his input anyways.

    Also I can't make any changes right now because I'm away from home. Also what was wrong with:

    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
    	  <p>&nbsp;</p>
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    And is there an alternative to skipping lines?
     
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  16. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    I thought it was unintentional - there are other (shorter, more compact) ways to accomplish that sort of spacing - for the simplest, why not just:

    <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> 
    Code (markup):
     
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    Lots of alternatives/ Adding a height attribute to tables or divs. Adding rows. However, the <p> lines are probably not hurting anything. they just make the code look a little wierd.
     
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    I hate finding fake paths in the woods that just lead me around in circles. :mad:
     
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  19. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Oh no, I can feel my blood pressure rising. Which site did you go to, and did it help too? If you just clicked to "say thanks", what benefit could there be in clicking on it? Advertising is about win:win relationships not click fraud.
     
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    I think he might have been referring my site at www.optimizingwebsite.com

    If so, I appreciate the click, but it really wasn't necessary. I, in no way shpe or form, promote clicking on ads, just for the sake of it. As both an Adsense, and AdWords participant, I understand the value of every click someone performs. It doesn't benefit the person displaying the ad, near as much as it hurts the advertiser, if it was just a "Thank You" click.

    However, he also said he found an add that he was interested in. I hope he found useful information on my site, and the ad's site.
     
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