SEO Experts Help.

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Aliensexist112, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. #1
    OK, right now I am really confused.
    I am promoting clickbank products on blospot blogs , but I am wondering would it be better to promote them in squidoo or Wordpress? Which platform is better?I mean in seo purpose which will rank better? And ofcourse my question is not about just google- it will take really a lot of time getting it to the top page but I'm wonder with which(blogger,Wordpress,Squidoo) I will rank better in MSN and Yahoo.
    ANother question I want to ask is about the delay the main search engines update.
    From some books I have read MSN is the easiest to dominate search engine but they seem pretty old (before 1 or 2 years ago) so is that true or things have changed?
    Thank you for your answers from now,
    ALiensexsit112
     
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  2. drakudemine

    drakudemine Peon

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    I am sure you will get different opinions about the questions you asked. I can tell you from personal experience that moving away from blogspot is a good idea. I have never used squidoo but Wordpress yes. Use Wordpress with your own domain name and hosting (not an X.wordpress.com blog). I only say that because wordpress does offer some plug-ins that are very good when talking about SEO. You do get a lot of power in customizing every page you do so that all is really search engine friendly. If you already made some money from your blogspot blogs, investing in your own domain name with hosting is a very good idea.

    I took a look at the sites in your signature. If you want to go in that niche you will have a lot of competition. You said you promote clickbank products. In this case I recommend that you do a good research on the keywords you use. This is because there are a lot of people that probably work in the same niche as you do. Choosing keywords for clickbank should be different than adsense. You want visitors that are already pondering buying what you are selling. For instance, if you optimize for the keyword "wow leveling guide" you will probably get a lot more visitors than "buy wow leveling guide" (I did not look at the search amounts for these keywords - they are only exmples) Those that look for the second keyword are already thinking about buying something so you will convince them easier to purchase your clickbank products.

    As far as I have been told, MSN is still easier to dominate but you will get more sales from Google searches in the sense that you should really aim directly for top Google placements. This means it will probably take longer than on Yahoo or MSN but the results should be better on a long run.

    Now about the search engines update. If you have high quality back links from blogs you can get quick search engine updates. I can tell you from personal experience that through wordpress, wordpress plug-ins and backlinks from blogspot blogs my new pages appear very quickly in search engines. Use RSS and site maps and you can make sure that your new blog posts will be indexed by search engines very quickly. Now ranking them is a different story. This depends on many factors but you can go higher in the ranks faster than you probably imagined.
     
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  3. Aliensexist112

    Aliensexist112 Peon

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    yea I get what you are talking about.For the blogger and wordpress hosted blog thx for the advice, I know what you are talking about,the problem is I don't want to invest any money before making some :/. After posting the qestions above I made a plan in my head which will probably work for making sales + ranking well on google.

    The problem for the products I promote at the moment is that they get very few searches (500-100).When I looked (few hours ago) at the sites that I have to "fight" against for getting well ranked on google i was like :confused:. It's still not impossible though- I could get to the top 10 in 3-4 months but it won't be worth it.The reason I choosed that product was because I wanted to start with somethign that I know.

    Now I decided change niche and promote product with keywords are related have more searches and the competitors at that niche in top 10 of google don't seem so hard.

    I guess I will have to read some books related to MSN and YAhoo for learning them :)
     
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  4. drakudemine

    drakudemine Peon

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    If there are few daily searches it is not necessarily a bad thing. If you know the product you can always put in information that feels really genuine for the visitor. Honesty can be felt in writing, especially if you are selling something. You will be successful in time if you continue working on it. One common mistake that people make is creating the sites, getting high in rankings and then leaving them rot. We are talking about blogs, blogs should be updated as often as possible. If you do this you can easily be more successful than others that do not. If this is your first promotion I strongly recommend that you take a look at a niche that you are comfortable with. For instance, if you do not know anything about WOW and you want to promote WOW products, you will not really have the success that you can have if you know what you are talking about. Paying visitors are not stupid and they can sniff out people that do not know what they are writing about. If you feel comfortable with this second niche go for it. You can only learn by doing it :)
     
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    In between blogger and wordpress, I will certainly advice wordpress and between wordpress and squidoo, certainly squidoo.

    You have better ways of earning with squidoo then just with clickbank products as squidoo provide more options and features to you.
     
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    SEOTherapy Banned

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    I suggest you use Squidoo for your landing pages.
    They're more SEO friendly and there's a lot of modules that can help to attract attention to your affiliate links.
     
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    stevestuff Well-Known Member

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    Don't know about you guys, but I get Google Page One at my Blogger site for the titles of most all my posts. Check it out:
    For wierdwebsites.blogspot.com
    Baby Maker 3000
    LOL Babies
    CUBICAL FREAKOUT

    I have only a couple of Google Page One at my WordPress blog:
    For webdesignbysteve.com/blog
    SEO Scams and Misunderstandings
    Inside the Mind of a Web Developer (long keyword phrase)

    Lastly, I'd consider squidoo - there's a lot of competition there! My once popular post, The Best Open Source and Freeware Apps, once a PR3, now a PR0.
     
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    ContentMarketing Banned

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    Wordpress all the way man. I get the best rankings overall with wordpress, use good tags for your posts. Try to use the same tag at least 10 times each, its a good thing to do, i wont say why, it just is.
     
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    the three, are very powerful

    but i believe that squido will rank more faster and higher than wordpress than blogger.

    just optimize your content for a long tail<50 000 and you will rank high.
     
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    Wordpress is the best for your purpose. I have worked with wordpress and I feel them better than blogger and squido. The easy adding of meta tags and description, makes wordpress better for search engine optimisation.

    Further, I have also seen that it is easy to dominate MSN than any other search engine.But, yahoo also indexes fairly good.
     
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    Wordpress and Squidoo why not use both of them feed your squidoo into your wordpress and wordpress into suqidoo But most definitely Get traffic to your own Domain.
     
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    SEO-Expert Well-Known Member

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    You will have probably stumbled upon several of my sites for the niche you are promoting, got a few top 10 SERPs in that niche (that game is bloody addictive :)).

    Best is relative to your resources, if you have a network of sites with decent link power then long term I find the best use of time is building sites on your own domains and as Wordpress is very good from an SEO perspective, using Wordpress is a good choice. On a new domain it's going to take about a year to rank well for SERPs considered competitive. Taking a year doesn't mean you'll get no traffic year one, basically if you don't target a lot of long tail SERPs your not going to do well traffic wise.

    If you lack link power and don't want to spend over a year building links to a new domain then Squidoo is a better choice than Blogspot since a Blogspot sub-domain is no different to a newly registered domain. Yes that means there is NO advantage to adding a site to a Blogspot sub-domain compared to a newly registered domain, on the other hand since Squidoo lens are on the main Squidoo domain they gain from the entire domains link benefit. You are 'owning' a page on a well ranked domain that when new content is added to it, that content will do far better than had it been added to a newly registered domain.

    If you owned Squidoo and added one page about a Clickbank product and linked to it internally there's a very good chance it would be top 10 for many relevant SERPs within hours of spidering! Unfortunately you don't own Squidoo so have no control over what others add to Squidoo and there can only be one page from Squidoo ranked high in a particular search engine. If someone is better at SEO than you, your page won't be the one shown and all your work is wasted. So though Squidoo can potentially gain easy traffic, reality is there's thousands of other people with the same plan!

    I did a quick Squidoo experiment and got my new page (WOW related) to the second listed (indented listing) in Google for relevant SERPs by linking to the page in my DP sig. I didn't do any other link building and it wasn't enough to get the 1st Squidoo listing. I got the odd Clickbank sale, but they are rare and far between (weeks).

    So with Squidoo you need good on page SEO and link build since that's what the smart Squidoo lens builders are doing.

    With this in mind IMO it makes far more sense long term to work on your own domains than put it into a Squidoo lens since once your domain has gained 'trust' status in Google (meaning you've got a fair number of backlinks and they have aged) you can do far better than struggling against thousands of other Squidoo lenses.

    David Law
     
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