seo course

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by uniqueasitis, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. #1
    Ok I decided to make a list of things people on this forum may find useful for seo. Not really a seo course but something close to a seo course. Add to the list if you wish!

    1. Use Keywords
    2. Use Meta Tags
    3. Use keyword rich title
    4. Put keywords in alt tag of urls
    5. Update content regularly
    6. Add unique content
    7. Try to update an article by lengthening it if possible
    8. Do not submit to google before a year
    9. Do not use directories
    10. Write anywhere between 1000 - 3000 unique articles
    11. Use a keyword density of at least 3-4% scattered!
    12. Update front page every day
    13. Add at least 10 new articles every day
    14. Do not put adsense on it right away
    15. Use rel="nofollow" on every outbound link
    16. Build links by using social networking websites
    17. Have a sitemap
    18. Use headings and put your webpage keyword in each heading
    19. Use the keyword in your links
    20. Interlink your articles
    21. When interlinking use the keyword in the anchor text!
    22. Only put upto 4 keywords if using a generic meta keyword tag
    23. Best to make a separate meta description and meta keyword tag for each page
    24. Use only on keyword per webpage in the meta tag
    25. Use overture to find keywords
    26. Focus on keywords which only a handful of people search for (i.e 400)
    27. Always have a main keyword scattered throughout each webpage in the static portions
    28. Ping search engines after each update
    29. Use Google Adwords if you are planning to aim high on Google
    30. When leaving links on other websites be sure to use the keyword in the paragraphs around the link you leave
     
    uniqueasitis, Jul 16, 2007 IP
  2. hooperman

    hooperman Well-Known Member

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    I disagreed with some of that. Just so you don't send people barking up the wrong tree: :)

    1) Not sure what you mean by 'use keywords'. Every word/phrase on your page is a potential keyword/phrase. If you mean use the keywords meta tag, I wouldn't bother if you think it will give you an seo boost.
    4) There is no such thing as an alt tag. It's an attribute. And URLs don't have alt attributes - images do.
    5) Update your content only if it makes sense to. It doesn't make sense to update all content.
    7) Update an article by lengthening it? Why update it in the first place if it doesn't need updating?
    8) You don't need to submit to Google at all to get your pages i their index. Just get links to them.
    9) Use directories if you want to. There are some niche specific directories out there that people do use.
    10) Why on earth would I want to write 1000 - 3000 articles? Recommending this will just encourage people to write mass dross. Even writing 1000 - 3000 crap articles will take more time than it's worth.
    11) Keyword density is meaningless. Pages rank #1 with KD's of 100% and they also rank #1 with KD's of 0.0001%. If KD is used, it will be used in a relative way, not an absolute way.
    12) Update your front page only if it makes sense to! What will a SE think you page is about if it changes every day?
    13) More useess articles. You don't need to write articles to have a successful website that gets traffic. If there is a real reason to write an article, go ahead though.
    15) If you put nofollow on every outbound link, then the pages that you link to that deserve your vote won't get it. This kind of manipulation corrupts the whole concept of link popularity inferring importance. How will a search engine determine a page's (PR based) importance if you don't pass PR to it?
    17) Have a sitemap if robots have difficulty crawling your site, otherwise don't bother. I've never used one and my sites haven't suffered.
     
    hooperman, Jul 16, 2007 IP
  3. uniqueasitis

    uniqueasitis Peon

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    1. By keywords I mean repetition of a word and or phrase searched by people on the internet in an article or throughout a website
    4. Yes your right my mistake. I meant title attribute. Use keywords in it
    5. No, you need to update regulararly. Certain search engines such as altavista look primarily for updates even if they are only 200 word long articlees
    7. The reason you want to update an article is because doing so increases page rank. Just look at forum posts. When the post starts it's no where in the rankings. But as it lengthens its rank increases
    9. Directories just don't offer the same link authority they once did hence submiting to them is a waste of time
    10. This is a seo fact that the more content your website has the higher it will rank
    11. No, I disagree. You may find some websites which rank high without keyword density but as a general rule you need to concentrate on density whether in the article or elsewhere on the site.
    12. Updates means better rank. Experience shows that
    13. You need to think of things which need to be written to convert one time readers into loyal readers
    15. True, but I am selfish. I don't want my websites rank hurt
    17. A sitemap is a safety. No harm having it
     
    uniqueasitis, Jul 16, 2007 IP
  4. hooperman

    hooperman Well-Known Member

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    I doubt that that is true, but I'll be persuaded if you can reveal your source. Do you get much traffic from Altavista, by the way?

    PR is a function of backlinks and the PR of the linking page - not the length of the linking page/update frequency. Long forum threads or short forum threads - more inbound links means more (in general)

    Your making a big assumption that gaining link authority is the only motivation behind getting your site published in a directory. You might want more traffic (isn't that the real reason for all of this...?) and if getting a link in a (niche specific) directory helps then go ahead. I would avoid blanket statements like "Do not use directories".

    This is seo myth. One page web sites can and do rank #1. Writing 1000 - 3000 articles purely for a perceived seo benefit is a waste of time. By all means if you enjoy writing - and have something worthwhile and useful to say - go ahead.

    As I said - if KD is used it will be in a relative - not absolute way. My page has a KD of x% but yours has (x+1)%. Simply chasing a numeric constant is pointless because it is meaningless on its own. If an unchanging KD (3 - 4%) is so important why do pages with KD=100% rank #1? Why do pages with 0.0001% rank #1?

    You have misinterpreted your experience to arrive at a false conclusion. There are pages out there that haven't been changed in years that still rank #1. Think about historical data that doesn't need to change - that doesn't diminisj their value.

    If you are writing articles for your readers, go ahead. If those articles are more useless junk (as so many mass produced 'articles' are) don't bother. This attitude of 'write 10 articles a day' just encourages people to sacrifice quality for volume.


    Imagine if everyone was selfish and nofollow'ed their links then. You wouldn't get any benefit either and it would completely destroy the idea that a page with more links to it was somehow more important. Oh yes, I forgot - this method of determining imprtance has already been corrupted by those who manipulate PR.

    No harm having one, but no need either if your site is crawlable.
     
    hooperman, Jul 17, 2007 IP
  5. WunschShrek

    WunschShrek Peon

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    Lol getting high on altavista should not be a goal =/

    Thats like getting number 1 on google for "dsapfkjspodfjosdfj"
     
    WunschShrek, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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    Not really, you get traffic from altavista

    Sorry should have been specific. When I said page rank I meant page serp.

    That is because the other factors such as updating come into play!

    That is because the website IS being updated!

    Not necessarily. Once you get used to it, you can churn out 10 quality articles a day.

    No it is not a myth. There are programs which create thousands of false pages which help you rank higher. Why would they work if this was a myth?

    Directories give you traffic? I have never had a directory give me any traffic. With search engines at the helm who uses directories for finding websites?
     
    uniqueasitis, Jul 17, 2007 IP
  7. me4you

    me4you Well-Known Member

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    A xml site map is better !!! thanks for the seo course !
     
    me4you, Jul 18, 2007 IP