I am afraid they are not....in case you may have missed it there are literally 1,000,000s of lawyers in the US and most make hefty sums of money. What there are in the SEO world are those who say they can SEO... but in fact are just playing with people... and taking their money so they can afford to under cut and drop their prices... then there are the SEO's who do produce consistently... and their prices are not going down. Supply & demand assures this Pricing is based on several factors, keyword competition, category of business, number of pages of the site, amount of work needed to be done. As with anything in life... be it cars, clothing, or a persons worth...cheap is never good and often results in inferior performance and costly continued maintenance. IMHO
The age old problem is that there are many good marketers (within the SEO communities) out there that are able to sell their services very well, but who can't necessarily produce the results. I've had clients coming to me that were badly burned and then corporates become sceptical. There's way too much misinformation out there, so the question is, what is really the right approach to market your seo services to your local corporates? Word of mouth I guess is consistently the best and so too having your client sites up in the ranks which drives direct referrals. Pricing is difficult with all the misinformation, but like you said, if you constantly get good results your pricing should reflect that, because your time becomes more valuable as you are more 'sought after'. If you can rank well on the most searched for terms regarding your business and its services, I guess you have a pretty good foot to stand on...
Well $3000 could be a good price depending on how long they are looking after you? I do 1 year contracts for a little less the price and Guarantee results for; SEO (1 Year Maintenance) Advertising Guranteed Tripple Traffic Top 1-5 Pages in Google for 5 Keyphrases Link Building ETC $1800US
Guarranteed triple traffic is very risky in my opinion. Also getting top 10 is not a problem at all, but getting top 10 on highly competitive phrases is where the key is. Empty promises are exactly what brings burned customers to our doors. That said, I'm not informed about your success rate dannbkk, so this is not aimed at you, but to the industry in general.
MtraX, I got my customer on the 1st page of google for Thailand Real Estate Thailand Property Bangkok Property Bangkok Real Estate Bangkok Condominiums (very competitive keywords) and have Trippled her Traffic. she was getting 3,000 Unique IP hits a month now they get 10,000 Unique Ip hits a month and on top of all that she "Sold 2 Properties Online" for the 1st time ever in 3 months from start of SEO both from UK and Australian Investors. You can read testimonial here; http://www.seo2webdesign.com/testimonials.php
Why pay big dollars for SEO when a bit of thought and some articles to article directories can be a big help? Most newbies can't afford $3000 dollars but have the time to write quality content, etc and do the hard yards to improve their rankings. I'd hate to pay $3000 only to have the site drop of googles first search page six months later as can often happen.
Most SEO's don't go after newbies - it's not worth the time or effort. The target demographic is companies looking to outsource - far cheaper to hire an SEO than it is to manage things in-house.
Hi dannbkk, thats why I couldn't discredit your statement! BTW, still dangerous to predict that you can accomplish that for each new client without doing analysis up front, allthough you've done well on the mentioned one Plus you've reminded me of testimonials, which is of course a good way of marketing...
You had someone buy a property site unseen and they used a shopping cart to do so??? I find that extremely hard to believe having worked the retail housing market both domestically and internationally and never ever has any one bought a home over the internet. (I do generate 100s of qualified leads a month though ) Also its nice you guarantee top 5 pages... but if you're not on the front page... you are not in the race.
Hi my friend Yes you are right... I thought going into the percentage of traffic each of the positions received was going a bit overboard.. as I am trying to be nice these days
You're right, as an SEO it's a fair target. Though as with anything it's all relative in terms of the the keyword, the number of searches it gets and the competition. I'd much rather be #10 for "Viagra" than #1 for "buy Viagria in a tiny town nobody's ever heard of"! Damn, what brought that about? I liked the old version!
Well your obviously doing something wrong than if you can only generate leads but cant close a sale over the internet. If an investor already knows the market in the country and has money to spare and he trusts the property group (website trust) and the salesman co-responding over email and telephone are also extremely good at selling property than there is no reason why you cant sell property online. They didnt use a shopping Cart to buy, they were faxed through contract once happy and money was deposited to C&M Group. If you dont believe me you can contact them to find out; www.condobangkok.com
I am not doing anything wrong believe me.. we close many more than two sales a week. However what you stated was the client made two sales via the net which is not what happened. You generated leads over the internet and someone over the phone and via email made the sale. This is much different than someone tossing a home in a cart and purchasing it which is what your prior post misconstrued. My goal is to prevent anyone else from reading your post and deciding that it is possible to sell high dollar items over the internet as many typical ecommerce vendors do. http://www.moroccansands.com I would contact your client but I do not want you mad when they leave your service
I think the most important parts of any seo's work are having a portfolio of contactable clients and having a website that is seo'ed to the first page of google for tough seo related keywords. Some one stated 3000 bucks for page 1 to 5 on google? anything below page 2 is useless. Of course u cant guarantee page 1 results but u should be able to get on page 1. A great seo surely can.
Well maybe your not doing anything right? You said earlier you have never ever has any one bought a home over the internet. (I do generate 100s of qualified leads a month though ) LOL I never said anyone payed for a property in a shopping cart, you need to read over posts clearly before you make accusations. What i did say from my Excellent SEO and Online Marketing services the customer got noticed and therefore was lead in the right direction which lead them to buying property via internet. whether that was done also by emails back and forth, the sale was done from originally seeing property online from both UK and Australia Investors and the property was sold from what they saw on the website. You wouldnt make it even half way in the door
I did read your post correctly you made a claim which I disproved don't take it personal as it surely was not meant that way...this is business right?? I have a challenge for you since you're such a great SEO.....Visit www.seochat.com and sign up to be an author......begin to write with that vast SEO knowledge you claim to have and knock me off my # 5 ranking. Ohhh and know this....I have not written there in over a year, it only took me 19 articles to get to that position (can you do it in less SEO champ??) and yet nobody else has been able to move me from my position. I don't typically do this kind of thing but I'm tired of people tossing around wimpy SEO accomplishments EDIT - if you can write somewhat intelligently seochat.com will even pay you a nice chunk of coin so you can have financial incentive to accept the challenge. Don't talk about it ...be about it!!!!! CD