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Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by silenced, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. otc_cmnn

    otc_cmnn Peon

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    #101
    1st prize will be a years supply of squeeky cheese and Maudite!
     
    otc_cmnn, Aug 19, 2005 IP
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    otc_cmnn Peon

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    #102
    And By the way, The Backgammon SEO contest is NOT being run by Play65! It is an affiliate of theres signing up subs to enter the contest. I have spoken with the affiliate manager of Play65, great guy. So lets not slap them with the bad paint. They are in the Casino space where it truely is 'anything goes' and always has been.

    With the Perfume.com SEO contest we are not looking to push any 'little guys' off their positions and ruin their businesses. Rather we are looking for talented people to join our affiliate pool. Most of the terms we will target are already riddled with affiliate spam. We are thinking of ruling for white hat (very light grey at least) seo, again decided by a fair third party as to what is black and what is not.
     
    otc_cmnn, Aug 19, 2005 IP
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    Design Agent Peon

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    #103
    OTC

    Sounds like a much better idea than the Backgammon SEO non contest from TC.Ads + Julia Ward. However, there are still a few details I would look at.

    1. Dont target ANY regular term - sounds odd, but even if you target "eau de dogbreath" and other strange non traffic terms it wont matter, the traffic generated from the competition buzz will make sure noone misses the contest or your site.
    it will also mean you dont have to deal with 1/2 a million pages of 'perfume' spam in the future. Take a look at the ultramarine contest and see how many pages were created, or at 'backgammon' in msn - Your site will end up disappearing under that mess - I hope this makes sense.

    2. Play65 - nice guy or not, they are letting it be done in their name and getting plenty of bad PR. I dont see anyone saying its a 'good' idea. All they need to do is come, sign up here and address the issues + concerns. - btw. Nice one Tanya Martin, who shot down the idea on another board - (and was quite subtle about it :D ) I would have dropped TCads personally (sorry guys I dont know if youre good at your jobs or not - actually I do, I can see by the rankings, sites and ideas so far..) I have suggested that play65 come discuss this here or TCads - both of whom think if they dont reply it will go away..

    3. Before you decide the rules. Decide the budget and objectives, then ask everyone how the competition should be run. - There are plenty of competitors from the ultramarine contest around here somewhere ;) and alot of people who can give you solid advice + have experience - Also having the 'celebrity seos' and previous entrants involved will give you instant credance. I dont see anyone who really would win, if they wanted, in this backgammon seo non contest.

    4. You can use your new 'contacts' to help you deal with all that affiliate spam that is bothering your rankings afterwards. If you think this contest wont make the situation for you 10x worse then think carefully. If you imagine a situation where your site is number 1 for perfume and the other 0000s results are sites sending traffic to you becuase the are in the contest - it wont happen like that.. you will be on page 932324 with tons of sites above you that you cant fight with because they have teams of top seos..you will get the traffic WHILST the competition runs - afterwards you will be stuck unless you offer the best payout and conversion. All it will take is 1 competitor of yours to email the top sites and offer more money - suddenly your traffic is gone and your rankings shot to hell. This is why I suggest you stay well away from the terms that you actually ever want to rank for.

    5. Again - targetting terms that already have traffic + competition negates the copetition part of it as some people will have advantages already.

    How about "eau de TCads" or something along that nature. - In time for xmas would be good, to steal the thunder from TCads ;)

    I hope that all makes sense.. you have understood why the backgammon SEO idea is a complete fix.

    Unlike Julia, you are welcome to pm me any questions you have that you dont want to discuss publically, I probably wont know the answer but I could point you to someone that does ;)

    Good start + welcome to dp..
     
    Design Agent, Aug 20, 2005 IP
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    otc_cmnn Peon

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    #104
    Thanks for your input DA. We'll take your points into account. We are whipping up a rough draft of the rules and regs and will start a new thread with them and ask for some specific feedback from that.

    The last thing we want to do is PO anyone, SEO's, the engines themselves, our competitors, or our shareholders...

    We are thinking of a few terms like:
    "How do you smell?"
    "I Smell Great!"
    and
    "Smell your Best for Less"

    Anyway - thanks for taking the time to respond and keep an eye out for a new thread.
     
    otc_cmnn, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    Design Agent Peon

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    #105
    This is the kind of thread hijack I like ;)

    Sound like a good Idea.

    Not sure the terms you have thought up can work that well.. because there are 11mil, 6.5 + 4 million respectively - so you end up where people (like my site) already have an advantage + many may be turned off by having to target 11mil results (even if not a highly competitive term). That said (without looking into too much detail) it looks like something I would consider entering for the fun of it. - I cant see it being harmful.

    I would also suggest you try contacting a couple of the 'seo elite' (or even the previous contest organisers) for their advice..


    As a side note, this thread is number 2 for Backgammon SEO and somewhere around 30 for 'TCAds'
     
    Design Agent, Aug 22, 2005 IP