seo challenge prize 15.000 $

To which of DA's questions was that the answer?

 

And suddenly I get link exchange requests from Backgammon sites hehe

 

On my travels I have seen quite a few footer links on high PR sites for backgammon, seems to have had the desired effect.

 

Yup, they seem to get what they were trying for since many out there don't get it.

 

If he told you, he'd lose his famous norwegian non-sequitur reputation too? Are you trying to ruin this man?

 

Hello everyone,

I am Julia the affiliate relation assistant manager for TC Ads and I have read all your comments and taken all your points extremely seriously. Some of your points have been really helpful and I have consequently made some changes.

Changes I have made:

- In the “who are the winners of the contest” section I have omitted the part that states “with the freshest content and most exciting design” – Thanks “dreamshop” and “john_loch” for your comments, you are right it is misleading and of course if we do not like your design or your wording this will not mean you cannot win. The contest is based entirely on your optimization skills.

- The HTML text has been changed from “I am participating in TC.ADS $15,000 SEO Challenge held by TC.ADS Affiliate program and Play65 online backgammon” to “I am participating in TC.ADS $15,000 SEO Challenge held by TC.ADS Affiliate program”. Thanks for you point “yfs1”.

Many of you stated that it is a contest just to advertise our affiliate program and play65. Obviously, as with any contest, there is an element of corporate sponsorship involved, but the contest does none-the-less offer a real opportunity for SEO experts to not only win the recognition of their peers but gain good commissions and a prize that I believe to be quite reasonable.

Thanks,

Julia

 

Should say WAS
(now you see where im going with this reply )

OBVIOUSLY NOT... judging by the following..

No comment so far on what I had to say huh??

SO? You no longer pick and choose. You now have to accept the rightful winners. HOW HUMBLE OF YOU.

I still see you trying to play with words - you think noone here sees it???
"If we do not like your design or your wording this will not mean you cannot win." - Triple negative ??? even the lawyers will struggle with that little word play.

If you were trying to be honest you would say: "The top 3 WILL win"

SO WHAT???

Who here do you think is that stupid JULIA???? 'Corporate sponsorship'
You are trying to put a whole load of SEOs at the top of the backgammon results INSTEAD of people that know something about backgammon. Yes, the prize is obviously good so you might succeed, as far as I am concerned you are a joke.

MY site is one of the sites that will be pushed down by your 'idea'. I am not concerned about my site, as the total generated by backgammon was never a concern, it was to compliment the other products.

HOWEVER, there are lots of sites in those rankings DESERVE to be there.

I can already see your affiliate rubbish climbing the rankings.

If you want any more confirmation that the whole idea is completely wrong ask why none of the "real pros' that could EASILY win this contest are not entering???

I hope all the sites that do link to the play65 "competition' get banned or you get them banned. Either way, do your worst..

 

But that's not the case, is it, Julia? Do you plan to announce who the winners are?

Boy do I hope Google bans this company just after the "contest" is over and the prizes are paid out.

 

Heh, I just caught up with this thread. I wondered why I was getting a bunch of 'Backgammon' link exchange requests.

I'm glad I don't happen own a backgammon site!

 

Some of the top listed sites have now added the play 65 stuff. Nice, so it is NOT even an SEO challenge.

Which means it is a {insert word of choice here} !

 

Hello,

I have to say that some of the comments are arguementative rather than constructive which takes away what this contest actually stands for. Disregarding the rather childish personal slur on my job, to continue to search for double meanings in my qualifications of the rules is both time consuming and a reduntent exercise.

Design agent you quote: "If you were trying to be honest you would say: "The top 3 WILL win" and "SO? You no longer pick and choose. You now have to accept the rightful winners. HOW HUMBLE OF YOU."

The rules have always stated in the who wins section that it is the top three. If the terms and conditions were unclear on this, then we stand corrected and have ammended them accordingly. If however you require it stated here, again, then so be it. The winners are those top three ranked sites who are part of the contest who have made it into the top 10 on a google search. If you go to our website and look under the seo challenge section you will see that it clearly states:

"The winners are the 3 sites that have achieved a top 10 position for one of the 4 specified keywords having met the terms and conditions of the contest."

As for comments that we are harming the sites that already hold the top google slots I would dispute this as the nature of the business means that any innovative company could take measures to either enter the market in a top position or boost themselves to a top slot. As experts in this field you are all well aware of the steps that can be taken towards this. It therefore seems a rather juvanile critism to levi at the contest when your other points had been fair, if mis-understood.

Thanks,

Julia
julia@tcads.net

 

In all fairness Julia, we are talking about an Contest that could really damage people's income.

I'm sure it will work well for you guys however.

DA on here will have help from a number of us to ensure that his site performs well and it's rankings are not damaged by this contest.

But for you to make the assumption that everyone who ranks for that term is an "Expert SEO" is misguided IMO.
Many people who have sites raking for those terms will be shocked when their sites rankings are overcome by what are essentially spammy affiliate sites.

 

Hi again!

Thank you for your clear and well presented reply Oliver.

Naturally I understand why as a team you will support DA in keeping his well earnt position - although I do rather see the irony that were you to have competed in the contest you would win it without too much effort on your behalf, but that is neither here nor there . This comment is not a call to enlist you, just trying to make light of what has become a 70 plus chat thread !!

I do take your points on board, and we will enforce the rule that spam and other such unprofessional means must not be applied to get ahead in this contest. The terms and conditions do state:

"You may promote your site on Google in any way you wish, however, spamming, racism, negativity, or any content deemed harmful is strictly prohibited."

Promotional speak aside, the contest was not designed to damage other sites, but I do see your point and will endevour to ensure this is minimised - it would be naive of me to say I can completely stop it so I will not try to lie.

Thanks,

Julia
julia@tcads.net

 

Thanks for the response Julia.

I guess my last comment would be to add some clarification to the term "Spamming"

If you outlined methods of SEO that were absoutley not allowed and would result in a site being banned from the competition, it may add clarification for those who are confused.

For instance...

Log File Spamming
Cloaking
Auto-Generated Content
Guest Book Spamming

Of course there are more that could be listed, I just felt that the term "Spamming" is fairly ambiguious and could basically result in *any* site being kicked out of the contest.

Again, thanks for your quick response

 

I did not instigate the argument, you did with this idea. You want people to help you trash a set of results?

Ok anyone that can get me number 1 for a year for any of the following terms I will give $50,000 to
Please pick from:
'Casino'
'web design'

I am also offering $50 to get to the top for play65.

You MUST link to my site and you MUST hold it for 1 year.
See my point?

The competition stands for NOTHING. If the top sites already now have your links then WHAT KIND OF COMPETITION IS THAT??

So, If I got from position 10 to number 2. I would win because I rose 9 places? Or the guy in position 1 wins even though he has been there all along???

I wish they would put you in charge of the olympics - then maybe I can have a giant head start and you will STILL think it is fair.

Please dont disregard it, read the above and determine if you would give yourself the job.

If you were doing a good job I wouldnt be able to say that without looking foolish. So, call it childish - makes no difference to me.. theres alot worse in this world than being childish.

It will be 'those words' that you stick to when it comes to prize giving time, so make them accurate.

Did it not originally say that those 3 at the top may not necessarily win - either way its a non issue compared to your other 'ideas'

Its not a seo challenge - is that not against the trade descripitions act or equivelent

And the ones that are already there (mine is 10th for 1 of the keywords) so, really thats not fair either. I have an advantage over the other 700000 pages + those that dont have a site yet.

My point is proven it is NOT an SEO contest, It is NOT fair and people will do it for money. Call it what it is: An idea you came up with in some meeting, thought it was wise, published it, now relaise that it could have been better thought out and now cant do anything about it because it has already started.

I am talking about sites that may be run by gaming people who may/ or my not have seo skills, who may or may not be artificially manipulating the results, who are also there due to lots of years of doing a good job. NOT sites that added 'backgammon' to their site and slapped thousands of links at it.


YOU are talking about pushing lots of sites to the top all with your affiliate linked so that everyone will be taken to an online backgammon site. If this competition was taken seriously by the seos here and the other forums then noone will ever be able to rank for backgammon again, because the first 100 results would be their sites.

 

Just stumbled on this thread.

All good points (execpt for Julia).

DA,

I just gave you about 1,000 weight spread between for "Backgammon Rules" and "Backgammon."

Good luck.

-jay

 

Be fair guys...

OK, it was a silly idea for a competition - but it's running now and at least she is answering our comments.

She didn't *have* to say anything...

Besides, I'm sure we will hear from her again following more comments from me and DA.

 

Hello,

I am more than happy to receive emails from those who have constructive suggestions for the contest, but I think to engage in a length pulling apart of emails debate is unnecessary and waste of everyone’s time.

As it has already been pointed out, the contest is up and running, but I will do my best to change points that you feel are unclear or unfair if these are presented constructively with alternatives rather than a negative dismissal.

It is easier for me to act on emails rather than check the forum though. My email address is Julia@tcads.net

Thank you
Julia

 

Everything I say will be here in public, thanks, its no harder to read this forum than an email, if it is that hard for you then how can you be responsible for checking up on the competition.. ??

All my criticism IS constructive.. your idea is bad, you have implemented it badly and now you are on a bad PR offensive and each time you type something - more people say they are targetting my site - I guess thats the unique democratic nature of the web. Thanks guys/ girls

What about the time I have to waste staying at number 10???? or anyone else? you going to pay me?? I am enjoying this more than I would do building links + as mentioned above, it seems other are too.

So what ? - STOP IT and rethink.

SO now you want to change the rules midway????
Is that a joke?

Ok, Here is what is unclear:
1. Will you make a FAIR contest?
2. Will you answer ANYTHING I ask you?

Not happening.

Tell you what, go get your client to sign up AND your boss..maybe they will answer questions rather than just complain that they cant read whats written here or that it might be negative.

 

When is this contest over?