seo and page optimization

Discussion in 'Reporting & Stats' started by AboutItWorld, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. AboutItWorld

    AboutItWorld Peon

    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #21
    well yeah I changed his description and keywords to mine of course.

    I thought it was wierd with all the robot things. What exactly should i make my robot line say and how exactly do I write a robots.txt file? the one I have right now is like this

    User-agent: *
    Disallow: /hidden/

    is there more than that? that is the only directory i don't want indexed.

    and what is the limit on repeating keywords in the keyword tag? I know i have a few world of warcraft kw's but because I thought that i had to say it for everytime someone searched say, wow guide, or wow gold, or wow levelin guide but you only need wow once i think then the rest right?

    Sorry I'm a total noob at this shit. I've had a computer for like 12 years now but even back in the day I never dealt with this stuff. I just made pages this is really new to me since I would go on and off making pages
     
    AboutItWorld, Sep 7, 2006 IP
  2. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

    Messages:
    6,179
    Likes Received:
    296
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    230
    #22
    No problem being new...I still am in many ways.

    I would say that using the keyword once in the title tag and meta description and keyword tags.

    If the keyword term is used first in the tags it has more weight than those at the end of the tag....so the theme of the page should center around the primary keyword term...

    density is the amount of times used in the tag....and too high of a density will trip filters....

    You can use variations at times for example car, automobile, /
    horse, equine / search marketing / internet advertising

    trying to build a theme for the SEs to understand what your site is about.

    Next the robots instruction you have is fine...just as it should be

    however I am not so sure the word "hidden" is a good thing to tell bots they cannot crawl....

    not that bots are capable of thought... but they could be programmed to take an action on meeting that word in a directive text.....like leave the site and not crawl at all....but I dont know for sure if its done as such.

    Hope this helps

    Peace
     
    Sem-Advance, Sep 8, 2006 IP
  3. AboutItWorld

    AboutItWorld Peon

    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #23
    hidden is just what i put as an example I don't want to put the actual directory I don't want indexed

    but about robots for the line
    <meta name="robots" content="INDEX,FOLLOW">

    do i leave it like that? i know i seen it before say robots.txt

    does it matter?
     
    AboutItWorld, Sep 8, 2006 IP
  4. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

    Messages:
    6,179
    Likes Received:
    296
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    230
    #24
    Hi About

    Ok first lets get whats what set for you

    Robots.txt file is a text file named Robots that is placed on your website hosting server, inside the text file contains robots instructions for all robots that visit your website.

    # All robots will spider the domain
    User-agent: *
    Disallow:

    You can of course give specific instructions to individual bots as well.

    See more here:

    http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/appendix/notes.html#h-B.4.1.1


    At times webhosting companies will not allow users to use directives on their servers or have other stipulations which do not allow complete scripting ability.

    In order for some users to give instructions to robots they have to resort to per page instructions as they are not allowed to use a robots.txt file

    This is seen within the <head> tags of some websites

    <meta name="robots" content="index, follow">
    <meta name="robots" content="index, nofollow">
    <meta name="robots" content="noindex, follow">
    <meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow">

    and I think

    <meta name="robots" content="all">

    See here:

    http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/appendix/notes.html#h-B.4.1.2

    You can also designate spiderbots for example

    <meta name="googelbot" content="index, follow">

    <meta name="googelbot" content="all">

    Hope this helps

    Peace
     
    Sem-Advance, Sep 9, 2006 IP
  5. AboutItWorld

    AboutItWorld Peon

    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #25
    damn I think that meta tag of yours fucked my site up. It was up for a few days before I read on here that most of it was not needed. Since saturday now my sales have busted down and almost went in the basement. Making $25 - 50 a day compared to 100-400 I really hope this is what the problem was, I took out most of it as you can see on my sig. Should I change anything else? before I put those tags in I had the regular ones that frontpage uses.
     
    AboutItWorld, Sep 12, 2006 IP
  6. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

    Messages:
    6,179
    Likes Received:
    296
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    230
    #26
    Hi

    It would help if you specified whose meta tag screwed up your site..

    And I believe myself and another told you those were the wrong ones to use.

    If you are speaking of the World of Warcraft site I would make your name less of a brand

    Try this foer the title tag

    <title>World of Warcraft Guide Brian Kopp's 1-60</title>

    I would also place world of warcraft at front of keyword and description tags and leave your name for the end.

    brian kopp 3.0 /day

    world of warcraft 17,880.6 /day

    Always go with the keyword term with the most searches as your primary term

    Hell thats a lot of searches good job!!!!
     
    Sem-Advance, Sep 12, 2006 IP
  7. AboutItWorld

    AboutItWorld Peon

    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #27
    yeah i forgot all about putting the best kw at the front.

    I was referring to the original big long meta tag list the guy mentioned. I know you said it was bad but I had already had it on my site for a bit by that point and I did change it to remove most of what you were saying was useless. Look at marsgamer.com and can you tell me any other tags I should remove or add?

    what is with the title you were saying? what do you mean by less branding anyway? The title you said I should use seems good but seems like sentence fragments more so than the original title. But I will change it if that will help
     
    AboutItWorld, Sep 12, 2006 IP
  8. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

    Messages:
    6,179
    Likes Received:
    296
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    230
    #28
    Bots take the first path to content when they read a page... up & down left to right.

    In your title tag the first word has the most weighting and is termed the primary keyword term by some.

    <title>Brian Kopp's 1-60 World of Warcraft Guide</title>

    So in your title tag brian kopp is the primary keyword term and earns most of the weight, and has 40% density (guestimate) so if you have a World of Warcraft competitor who uses that keyword term first in their title tag, they will win that part of the war within the search engines...

    <title>World of Warcraft Guide Parts 1 to 60 By Brian Kopp's Competitor</title>

    Make sense?? Yes it may not read as nice as one would like but this is where you need to find a balance...

    World of Warcraft 17,000 daily searches doesnt read so nice...do gamers look for gramatical perfection?? lots of visitors if you win the keyword term rankings

    Brian Koop 3 searches...reads very nice.....nobody visits site :(


    Usually a company with a strong brand name such as Pepsi or Coke might make their brand name their primary keyword term but Brian Kopp has only 3 searches per day at best....World of Warcraft is the primary keyword term you should use in title meta description and meta keywords tag.

    Peace
     
    Sem-Advance, Sep 12, 2006 IP