SEO Advice - Confused.

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Garden Shed, Mar 4, 2009.

  1. #1
    Started a new website in late December last year. (In my Sig)

    I have been slowly building backlinks to it every day since about the middle of January. Up until 2 week ago I had been sitting fairly steadily on page 2 in google for the two main keywords that I am targeting.

    This past week I hit page 1 for both keywords.

    The strange thing is nearly everyday I am ranked on page one when I get to work in the morning. By ten O'clock I have normally dropped to page four somewhere.

    I stay there all day until about midnight when I pop up on page one again. This has happened every day for nearly a week now.

    Has anyone got any ideas on why this is happening.
     
    Garden Shed, Mar 4, 2009 IP
  2. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    #2
    it happens if you are not ranked the same across all google datacenters. google has several datacenters and based on which datacenter your search result is pulled form, your ranking may vary. looks like you did a good job on link building for your site so i would suggest you to keep doing what you are doing with your site promotion and over time, it will be just fine. your site is still pretty young so take a slow and steady approach on link building and watch your ranking climb higher....
     
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  3. Garden Shed

    Garden Shed Peon

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    Thanks for the quick reply. I am fairly new at all of this and I wasnt sure if I might have been doing to piss the almighty google off.
     
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  4. vithca

    vithca Guest

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    Ranking in the first couple of pages for a competitive term means you are doing the right things. It takes a while for a new site to settle down to a consistent placement. I suspect you will end up in the page 4 position until you add more links and tweak your on-page factors.
     
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  5. tommseo

    tommseo Peon

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    It happens with new sites so don't get upset dude, just keep concentrating on your work. you will get the result
     
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  6. Mickle Deng

    Mickle Deng Peon

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    #6
    yeah!
    Your nichle is so young that google change it's place!

    Just do as you last weeks
     
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  7. vl09

    vl09 Peon

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    It may possible while Google updates its data center which is known as Google Dance.

    You should also check the competitors' sites too. Google updates it's index and if it gets better (in relevant factors) than your site may have lower rank than the others'. So just keep optimizing your site.
     
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  8. shailendra

    shailendra Peon

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    but how could a person using the same IP get result from the different data centers???
     
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  9. manish.chauhan

    manish.chauhan Well-Known Member

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    There are different tools that can help you showing search engine results of different data centers while using same ip...:)
     
    manish.chauhan, Mar 5, 2009 IP
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    I would suggest increase your link building and update your content.

    as fast as you do it you will get your position back
     
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  11. shailendra

    shailendra Peon

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    i am not talking of tools but how can the results vary after every few hours and make the results page upside down i.e. how can different results be shown by switching between different data centers after every few hours???
     
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  12. manish.chauhan

    manish.chauhan Well-Known Member

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    Sorry..didn't get you..what exactly your question is??
     
    manish.chauhan, Mar 5, 2009 IP
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    Traffic-Bug Active Member

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    It may be because of the data centers issue. But ranking in page 1 for a 2 month site is totally unbelievable for a competitive term like garden shed.
     
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  14. shailendra

    shailendra Peon

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    #14
    i agree with you that there are tools that can show you the results from different data centers. but Garden Shed has posted different question. he is not using any tool but still seeing different results at different time to which sultanofseo has replied that this is due to the results being shown from different data centers. so i want to ask that how can a person see results from different data centers at different points of time???

    hope i am clear this time???
     
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  15. Ryan@SEOBackup

    Ryan@SEOBackup Peon

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    Aside from the flux that always happens on Google, there has been a definate shake up in the rankings these last few weeks. I can only assume they are testing new filters, or maybe it is to do with the big 'branding' changes.

    If you are getting 1st page results at all, you are obviously doing something right. Keep at it - don't let the consistancy drop & you should see it stabilize over the coming weeks/months.
     
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  16. Garden Shed

    Garden Shed Peon

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    Thanks for the replies everyone. Although there seems to be a few different trains of thought it seems I am heading in the right direction and will keep doing what I have been.
     
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  17. nettech

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    Hi,

    Firstly congrats on your results, obviously your hard work is paying off. Just keep doing what you're doing, follow all white hat techniques with major focus on quality 'relevant' backlinks and quality content on your site. With new sites, your sites tend to rank high, then they may drop rankings either becuase they've gone into the sandbox or because Google is decding where the site should be placed. Eventually your rankings will level off and all these rankings will stop dancing around, and it is down to the datacenters which one of the users mentioned above.

    Good luck
    Zaheer
     
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  18. vengatowen

    vengatowen Well-Known Member

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    Well the rankings fluctuations will be there when you are going to get the constant SERP position.

    short term and isolated ups/downs may be due to accessing
    different data centers; this does not adequately explain major
    cyclical variances.

    You are likely to hear no explanation from Google people - they simply
    do not comment on this particular topic (with very rare, vague and
    inadequate exceptions).

    You are likely to hear all sorts of explanations from NON-Google
    people and none of those that I have seen over the past two years are
    at all convincing.

    If you want to monitor it systematically, you need to lock on to
    specific data centers, rather than taking pot-luck with the usual
    google.com request.

    Sorry I cannot be more helpful than that.
     
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  19. internetmarketingiq

    internetmarketingiq Well-Known Member

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    There is nothing as constant as change. Google changed it's alogrithim 450 times last year, uses multiple datacenters, serves results based on IP, is using branding as a filter, time on site, etc. You should probably expect your site to move up and down consistently.

    Keep in mind that your site means little to Google, they index millions of sites and billions of pages. Your results are almost never the result of someone at Google taking an action, and nearly always the result of something on your site tripping some kind of filter... either positively or negatively.

    Like Stars in the Universe, too many to count.
     
    internetmarketingiq, Mar 5, 2009 IP