Send Those Spam Reorts To Google And You Will Recover Your Position In The Serp's

yup I still think spam reports are lame, my living is based upon exploiting the search engines not helping fix their algos for free.

They have money why don't they hire someone to do their spam reporting

 

This thread reminded me of something funny I'd heard a while back.

The definition of SPAM:

Sites
Placed
Above
Mine

 

I dislike reseller. He is extremely annoying, highly ignorant and a googleguy/matt cutts blowjob machine.

His on-going nonsense in every google update thread at WMW makes them worthless.

I don't think I have ever seen him say anything remotely intelligent and/or accurate, but he is always annoying.

 

Haven't seen any other posts by him before, no clue who he is.

 

Not to defend reseller after I just trashed him... but Matt Cutts and Googleguy have both asked for spam reports to be filed out at different times. Several times during the Jagger updates they specifically asked for spam reports and even explained exactly how to file them so they got direct human attention. What you are seeing from reseller is simply an overdone regurgatation of instructions they gave probably weeks ago.

 

That is how I've seen it as well. I do believe it's good to have the option to report. I also believe that abuse should be expected and prevented. Gosh, I know of one industry specific webmaster forum where threads about competitors' spam sites ranking higher than theirs have given me some major headaches. I think also that blog spam should be high on the list of something that needs to be worked on. Not sure if it is on their list though.

 

Whats with all the negativity - I mean, all I seem to read on this forum lately, is people bashing other people. Can we just get on with what we are supposed to be discussing rather than who did what hats and who said what.

Going back on to the original subject - to be fair you can understand why Google don't go through the spam reports, they must get hundreds of thousands of them, and to find the real spam in within the rubbish would be very difficult. Even so, if this is true, it could take them weeks if not months to go through all the spam reports with 'jagger3' and see which ones are genuine.

Darren

 

And there comes the voice of reason - just when trolling became more and more fun. Dang

 

Actually they did go through lots of spam reports during jagger. Especially when they staffed extra people and solicited reports. Lots of people were seeing reports acted on in a very short amount of time.

That being said, it is unlikely that every report made is valid. Thos being acted on were well-written, well-evidenced and well documented. Again though, too many people probably don't even know what a spam site is, so they just submit anyone in front of them in the serps.

 

Totally agree... seems that everybody just wanted to submit the spam results and see those sites vanish the next day... oh, and see their own sites at #1

Things don't work that way...

 

Mike

Do you think that the spam report should exist if they are not going to look at it?

It's quite obvious that hidden text for example is not getting picked up - well from the examples I have seen. One site in particular has around 50 paragraphs (5 lines per paragraph) on each page full of hidden text, it's been on Google 3 years and still ranks well...

The I way I look at spammy sites though is try and outrank them it gives you much more satisfaction knowing you have beaten them without the need of spam!

 

Absolutely. I have mixed emotions knowing that some of my friends do BH. But I believe that quality will survive eventually. Some of the BH sites don't even need to use hidden text IMO, they would rank anyways and the webmasters don't even know it. What I like about the spamreport is that Google is trying to communicate. I like that a lot more than them being so unhappy with their results that they start lashing out and create another florida/jagger whatever, it's all the same thing, the wrath of Google coming down. I just hope it won't be abused to the point where they stop looking at it, like some DMOZ editors who threw their hands up in the air saying most submissions are self serving garbage anyways.

 

Now Mike, its 6am don't get me on the subject of DMOZ lol but I agree that a spam report form should be available, but it seems pointless if it's never going to get looked at.

I agree with you on BH sites - most of the time its webmasters who don't have the time to learn to do it properly OR who don't want to learn how to SEO their site properly.

I'll openly admit that when I first started out, I put hidden text on one of my pages (shock, horror!) but when I started to visit forums, because I wanted to learn, as soon as I saw the threads on hidden text, I removed it straight away. Alot of the time people do it because it's a learning process, and whilst they can get away with it - in the long run though it'll come back and bite them in the ass

 

I agree, I make my living exploiting the engines. If I come across a spam site (for a keyword I want to target) I spend time trying to work out how/why they are where they are in the SERPs. IS there a technique that they're using that might be of use to me - and can I even spot how they've done it ?
Report 'em - I personally can't be bothered, it's the SEs job to clean up their SERPs not mine. If they've found a whole in the algo's that I can make use of then I want to work out what it is.

 

I personally think that the spamreport is just there to keep overly energetic seo's busy

 

Mike I think your right.

 

I've just added 2 more cents. I do believe in providing quality. And I am against polluting search engines with bad results. But I'm even more against the buttkissing that is going on behind the scenes. Matt emailed me earlier about something else. He is not a guy who wants his butt kissed. He's very helpful. But there is always a crowd of groupies around him. So, sometimes you need to see thru the forest to see the sun.

 

Pitiful...

Dosn't anyone else here think it is just PITIFUL that THE most elegant Search Engine in the world, THE search engine that can tell what the "theme" of your page, the theme of every page linking to yours and the enire "theme" history of both, just can't seem to find hidden text on a page?

How many here still believe that if you raise your keyword density on your page to, lets say 50%, that it will get you ANYWHERE in the serps?

Hidden text isn't Black Hat it is simply OLD Hat.

Google isn't looking for information to eliminate single sites, they are looking for feedback regarding their latest update.

The more reports about "bad" results = the more they have to tweek.

Think about it...

You do NOT need an elaborate algorithum to return huge sites in the results link Amazon, Ebay, DMOZ, Bizrate, and a plethora of no-name scraper directories.

Google is looking for information - "bugs" per-se - so the can figure out what and where to tweek.

IMHO
Caryl

 

What is that a few hidden pages, do you know how little that does to help your rankings? Unless they are misspellings or unique words, it most likely doesn't do jack.

Yeah totally, I try to learn from whatever technique people are doing, and if it looks good I buy a domain and copy it.

To me spam report = $0 and spam site > $0 , it seems like a no brainer to me.