Senator Jim Rish: "Why sacrifice our kids' future for Pakistan?"

No, Kuwait war is the same issue. In any conflict prior to Iraq, the US would have immediately effected regime change after driving Iraq out of Kuwait. That means bombs would have been falling in Iraq in 1991 instead of 2003. We would have dealt with the entire nation rebuilding/power vacuum issue when we had a coalition of practically every civilized nation on the planet, and there would have been no naysayers(like yourself).

Instead, Bush Sr. followed the advice of his "peace loving" liberal general, Colin Powell and decided to let Sadaam Hussein stay in power. As is typical with these types of 'peace through weakness" initiatives, it cost more lives than it saved. There would be a lot more Iraqis, Kurds, and US servicemen alive today had we finished up in 1991. The worldwide revulsion of the US going back to clean up Powell's mess would have never happened. We would have spent a lot less money on the war overall. Iran, with the US parked right next door would be a lot more respectful. We may never had seen Bush Jr(Or Clinton). I suspect 9-11 would have happened anyway, but who knows.

None of us can go back and change history, but denying Iraq had anything to do with Kuwait, or calling Iraq under Sadaam the "Real Iraq" is just idiocy at its finest.

 

I don't know if Iraq could have been stabilized in 1991 . The world was already shattering in those days . If a UN backed up government would have been up to the task is something we would never know .

Obamanation - my hat is off to you . Although I don't share some of your views you are one hell of a writer . If you truly are a Muslim then you are doing your religion an invaluable service . It sometime is a real pleasure to read your replies .

 

To the best of my knowledge, every US lead post WWII Democratization/Nation building effort has failed(Does Panama count?). If Iraq stabilizes into any kind of democracy or free government, it will be something for the history books.

Thanks man. I'm wondering if there might be a niche for the pro-gay neo-con Muslims in America. I'm thinking I can open up my own Mosque.

 

That's one sour point for the US . But this is the 1st change of regime since the collapse of the CCCP . So there is a better chance for stability . We're also in the region to help and advise . And never before since WWII was such an effort undertaken . The motivation behind the operations is far stronger . Many of us lost friends in there and we're not about to give up . I would be like they died in vain .

I guess you can , there is no 9/11 site in SF so no one should fear you . If you make the mosque using local architecture then you should have no problems . People fear symbols , right now the oriental architecture is regarded as a symbol of something strange and menacing but they won't fear a mosque that looks like one of the next door buildings .

 

USSR counts..

 

Yeah I guess. We never really sent troops into the USSR, so I have a hard time calling it Democratization, not to mention the USSR isn't looking so democratic or friendly these days. Perhaps my statement was a bit sweeping, since Granada, El Salvador, and Panama all seem to have come along nicely, though it will be interesting to see what happens when we let Panama's ex-president Noriega out of prison.