Selling site wide links on your directory.

Discussion in 'Directories' started by Alan Murray, May 1, 2007.

  1. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #21
    If Nobody can prove --then please don't post speculative things and make people confused.

    I always opine that --Internet is a place of mostly Crooks --who does not know but to attract attentions --just say something that is out of thought.

    I can just open a BLOG --write some extraordinay posts that is against perceived beliefs and give some speculative examples --and hollahhhhhhh--people will rush to SPECULATE on my speculative posts.

    I think --the SEOBOOK owner is a great guy --but he is not the director of Google's algo. His guess/idea is as good as ours.
    So cool -down buddy --.

    My advice to you is --

    YOU ARE BETTER OFF NOT TO READ TOO MANY SEO ARTICLES-AND CONFUSE YOURSELF. WHEN YOU ARE CONFUSED YOU WILL LOOSE SEFL-ESTEEM AND RUN TO A SELF-PROCLAIMED SEO EXPERT AND OFFER HIM A FORTUNE TO DO A SEO SERVICE FOR YOUR SITES WHICH YOU COULD HAVE DONE EXACTLY YOURSELF.

    One of the greatest tricks SEO people do to get client is to to create confusion among webmasters with so many technical things --but SEO is really simple --Build links --create good/unique contents and nothing else.
     
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  2. Alan Murray

    Alan Murray Well-Known Member

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    #22
    I think I have hit a nerve with some webmasters who sell sitewide links on there directories!
     
    Alan Murray, May 3, 2007 IP
  3. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #23
    Its not about hitting Nerves --but what do you mean about site-wide????

    Can you please explain?

    If you have problem --understanding what Site-Wide for directories means --please read this thread
    Site-Wide Listings meant By Directories

    I checked your profile and found your homepage to be a Web Design + SEO site which means you are also a So-Called SEO expert.:rolleyes:

    Why do you want us to sell only homepage listings and not inner-page listings? Is you business getting hampered because you don't find enough quality FREE directories? You chrage your clients including paid listings and don't wanna share it with those ( US) that make your job that much more easier?

    Thats not on my friend. Its give and take policy.

    Besides : If you want to get heavy discount for your clents on my Directory network--just drop me a PM.:p
     
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  4. Alan Murray

    Alan Murray Well-Known Member

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    #24
    By site wide I mean having a link on every page.

    In my opinion they significantly reduce the value passed (particularly if they are not relevant).

    I do submit to paid directories. Many other good value for what you are getting.

    By site wide I mean having a link on every page.

    In my opinion they significantly reduce the value passed (particularly if they are not relevant).

    I do submit to paid directories. Many other good value for what you are getting.
     
    Alan Murray, May 3, 2007 IP
  5. Velocity

    Velocity Well-Known Member

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    #25
    I must agree with Alan on this one.
    Any serious directory owner should not sell sitewide links because they do reduce the PR passed on, and make directory look less professional, in my opinion. I am not aware and don't want to speculate on any other effect of sitewide links. If you want to sell sitewide links then keep it at the lowest number possible. Maybe up to 5.

    botw, alive, aviva, etc. do not have sitewide links (or have only a few) so that should say something.

    A few months ago I spent around $2,000 submitting two sites to directories, and tried to avoid submitting to directories with too many sitewide links.
     
    Velocity, May 3, 2007 IP
  6. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #26
    OK --now I understand.

    But --I don't agree with you that they greatly devalue passing of PR.

    Please check --

    http://www.elegantdiretory.com ( Check how many home page links it sells and how strong its sub-categories are!):rolleyes:

    I think now it is as strong as Alivedirectory/Aviva in-terms of PR on sub-pages.

    That is why I said --please --First gather concrete proofs and then only post a new idea which will be appreciated by all.:cool:
     
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  7. Velocity

    Velocity Well-Known Member

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    #27
    I was thinking that if a page with PR5 has one outgoing link, it will pass more PR juice to that link, than if there was 30 outgoing links on that page.
    I don't know how it works for inner pages of the same site :eek:
    But to be honest, after the last PR update, I don't think anyone has a clue how google does it any more, other than they are trying to mess with PR (that we get to see), so they can make even more money through Adwords :rolleyes:
     
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  8. jhnrang

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    #28
    That is the point Velocity --isn't? Nobody knows --it! So why should people bring out more confusing things:rolleyes:
     
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  9. Velocity

    Velocity Well-Known Member

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    #29
    Well, for years it has been accepted, as a fact, that google divides PR with the total amount of links on the page.
    Which is understandable, because each link is counted as a "vote", so if you want to give your vote to 30 pages it will be worth less than if you gave it to only one page.
    But like I said, this was a fact, but I am not sure any more :confused:

    I really wonder what will next PR update bring :eek:
     
    Velocity, May 3, 2007 IP
  10. enQuira

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    #30
    nobody knows exactly doesn't mean that obvious conclusions cannot be drawn. PR is calculated using an algorithm and obviously for every link you sell you lose PR. When you put sitewides you lose it in every page.
    Why do people here take it personal, you can sell sitewides nobody cares, I myself will buy sitewides from you but won't buy a directory listing if you are selling sitewides.
     
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  11. Fastian

    Fastian Peon

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    #31
    Well, I do see a point here. Having too many sitewide links is not a good practice but saying otherwise is not justified as well. You sell links and you invest the money to your site to promote it even more. I don’t see anything wrong with this. If you do it right, you are going to give better results to your users.
    I understand your point. That is why I thinks its better to put a limit on the number of links. (10 links sounds to be a reasonable number.)
     
    Fastian, May 3, 2007 IP
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    #32
    Too many sitewides should be avoid. We can have a Sponser section with link on homw page only. :D
     
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  13. Alan Murray

    Alan Murray Well-Known Member

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    #33
    There is very little that you can be 100% certain in SEO. All we can do is speculate.
     
    Alan Murray, May 4, 2007 IP