See where your sandboxed site would rank!

that article is BS in opionion, i guess its possible

there where so many exceptions in the Florida Update

you would rank no where for your terms but be number one if you added an 's' and made the term plural

plus all non-competitive phrases where basically untouched, then if you added more links to the sites they came back,

I really doubt I suddenly found 'authority' sites by trading a bunch of links

 

I think we need to use 2 different terms here. Sandboxed and something else. A sandbox, you can get out of, but as some are saying, they have been held down for 5 years.... that has to be called something else. I did notice a few of mine were in the mix there. How do you get out of the sandbox again? Is it just a matter of waiting?

 

the sites that i mentioned where not optimized at all with links they where old school meta tag optimized before I worked on them

 

Me too, one of my sites goes from nowhere (well 60+ position) to position 2 with this trick (nb, to do so I need 14 jibberish -asdf not 13, maybe because the phrase I am after is 2 keywords long and not 1??).

This result is inline with my allin*: results of position 2 for the keyword in question.

 

dito on that, i'm usually in good standings with my allin tags (at least for the few targeted keyword phrases).

i'm thinking it's the company you keep. if everything else says it a winner, what are they docking you for?

2 possible things stand out to me ...

1 - non relevant outbound links
2 - over optimization (if there is such thing outside of being plain old spam)

 

skattabrain, i'm looking hard at your #1 possible thing as well.

 

I'm comparing this to doing allinanchor:keyword term and the top 10 results for allinanchor: for the couple of keyword terms I have checked seem to be the same as doing the -jibberish.

Anyone else?

 

The results for a lot of KW's will of course be similar to allinanchor, anchor text is still a big factor.

I have checked several sites and the results are different from the allinanchor command.

 

I checked out the filter or sandbox of query as well. Huge difference indeed. But wat is it worth? what does it actually tell? So some, maybe sandbox filter, or age filter, is turned of it does not tell much about how the KW ranking will ever be for your site. What is it more than just a nice play tool? Heck if this really shows the results that will apear in a few months I would get 10.000 of visitors in a day just from google. Would be nice, but somehow I can hardly believe it.

My domain is nearly 6 months old, from day one the links to it were exploding,
can I help that? did it trigger what some call the sandbox? well nobody knows, thats a thing I am more and more sure of. Arent we all just searching for patterns, but HOW we can invluense it is just a big guess.

hmm I really sounds frustrated, but its just my own conclusion.

 

knowing you site design is spot on helps narrow down your troubleshooting! it's helpful for me to know that there is "something" out there that needs correcting.

it's helpful for me to know that the site is designed well enough to rank.

i'm not buying the age or time factor. i agree with ferret, i've seen new sites rise quick.

 

thanks but which one? i have this issue in a few palces it seems.

 

Yes it is, but if you tried all and the filter is active, and we dont know how to beat the filters where do you stand form there. Thats my point. I know I should be on the first page for my main KW. The reason is that I have content that goes far beyond the compitition, I have all the backlinks you can imagine even from the mayor website that are related, with the filter turned of I am on the front page. But in reality it is not. Is it all just waiting untill mr G will turn it of. reason unkown, time when they see fit. Ok I'm getting to cynical.....

 

yeah, it's frustrating. do you have lots of outbound links? if yes, are they relevant?

 

Maybe its my gut instinct but in my experieince releveance is never the answer

acutally I havn't seen new sites rise quick, I have seen new links added to old sites, that already had a good links base before the sandbox period rise quickly

the sandbox would discourage making new sites for every new key phrases you think of

 

in my opinion they are, but check them out and let me know what you think about them. I do have link page, but the other links are on every page.

url is in my profile, erotic art

 

let me correct myself, i've seen new sites rise quick on other engines. so that would make that comment of mine not applicable.

** cough ** msn ** cough **

 

according to this tool i found in a seo-guy thread, i'm so deep in quick sand it aint funny - http://www.socengine.com/seo/tools/sandbox-tool.html

 

Did anyone know that this function works for msn beta as well... at least it does for me.....makes me wonder/thinking?

 

don't know, didn't try it ... msn isn't the problem for me.

 

Very interesting tool. I found one of my sites was sandboxed. It is a site on a free host that I set up many years ago. Three or four years ago I read up on search engine optimization where it said to load up the keywords meta tag with every word, phrase and variation of a word your site might even remotely cover. So I did. Of course we all now know your meta keywords should occur in the text on your page

Anyway, I tested a half dozen of my own sites and some of the pages on them and the only ones I found in the sandbox well and truely deserved it.

Now to remove the links from my sandboxed site to my real sites so they stop dragging me down