See where your sandboxed site would rank!

Sites don't get sandboxed, it is links that get sandboxed, and mor over link benefit to a site. Because of this it is a search query filter, not a site filter. It is perfectly possible to rank #1 for one phrase, while being sandboxed on another.

 

So its a matter of time... before you eventually will rank better because of the search query filter . How long can that be..months weeks before the filter is deleted ....if it is a filter.

 

I highly suggest that you guys read this.

It will tell you exactly what adding those terms to your query is doing...

 

it's probably not so much an A or B switch ... it's probably a ranking system just like the serps... just in the other direction.

i noticed the same, some sites make quantum leaps, other sites already doing well on page 1 climb to 1 or closer to one.

 

SEbasic you arn't making any sense

if the filter bypasses the mythical hilltop algo

then wouldn't all the results be different, not just a handful

the filter doesn nothing to my old sites

 

I agree that sites don't get sandboxed but "Age of Page" might be a factor.

I recently ran a test on a domain registered in 1997. By way of the ad network four-thousand (4000) links were pointed to the home page. Result: Top ten placement on Google, Yahoo, and MSN.

At the same time I created a "New" page on the same domain and via ad network three-hundred links were pointed to the page. Result: Sandboxed

I'm not drawing any hard and fast conclusions based on those results but it does make me wonder.

 

I don't know what sites you are running, or how competitive the results are, but I can assure you that everything in that article is relevant to using this query.

I even read a paper a while ago that talks all about this type of query and how the results are as a direct effect of the Hilltop algo (Being switched off).

I'll try to dig it out again (I should have bookmarked it). If I can find it you'll see exactly what I am talking about...

 

Here is my theory:

If we imagine for the moment that Google uses a two stage process to determine the SERPs. The first stage produces the raw results and the second stage applies a number of different filters.

When a few search terms are used all filters are on but as the number of terms increases certain filters are turned off.

The probability of finding a relevant page is inversely proportional to the number of terms in the search. Allowing pages that might otherwise have been filtered to "pass through" as the number of terms increases ensures that highly relevant normally filtered pages (if they exist at all) become available.

Or to put it another way, as the number of search terms increases the application of filters become less important and the number of available pages becomes more important.

Of course it is not a complete theory but I would be interested to hear the views of others.

- Michael

 

I would say I have sites in medium competitive areas, I don't really know how to measure competitveness becasue its objective

anyways

like I said "then wouldn't all the results be different, not just a handful"

 

i have a site registered in Oct 2000, it climbs from #5 to #1 with the filter.

can a 5 year old site be sandboxed?

i agree with michael... there are probably stages of different types of filters.

 

Many of the terms for my five (5) year old site are sandboxed.

EDIT: I just checked one of my sites from 1999 and there are terms that have been sandboxed too.

 

My site at the moment ranks #600+ or 1000+ for my main KW. With this seach is at #6.
My site site is already 9months old. I think it takes 12 months to get out of the sandox.....

 

My site was launched in October of 2002

 

skattabrain

I have site that is from 1998 that is sandboxed to hell and is number 1 with the nonesense words

I think it has been established to some degree that the filter effects links and/or domains or some combination

 

For those of you with old sites - do you have a bunch of new backlinks (within the sandbox time period)?

 

the one I mentioned 95% of links where added in the last 6 months

on my homepage which is few years old, most of links are from before that period. When I moved to Florida few months ago, I started optimizing my site for local searches like "Florida web design"

my site ranked in 2-3 weeks

on a clients site registered in 1996 , his site already had a number of higher pr links, his site ranked top 5 for his terms in less then a month

 

that could very well qualify an old site to be thrown into the new site sandbox.

 

Yeah I remember that, then G shut it down.