Security guards 'machine-gunned Iraqis as they tried to surrender'

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by M5love, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #21
    Couldnt quite figure out how to word it... but given the content of his post that does seem to sum up the thoughts that come to mind.
     
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    Gomar Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Well, if you think about you can get oil right away. So many oil wells were set on fire when the invasion began. Saddam was never going to sell to US, but he was prepared to sell to Russia, Europe and China. Now look at it, it has been reversed. Long-Term oil supplys are not locked in.

    Speaking about violating UN Resolutions. UN didn't agree to go to Iraq, US nevertheless did it anyways. There are much more worst places than Iraq in the world. Such as Darfur, so please don't tell me that going in there in the first place were sincere intentions. The country is more screwed up than it was before, if they really wanted to make a difference donate that billions of dollars to poor children in Africa. $1 a day can feed and school a child. Or send some peacekeepers there, or more medical docotors.

    Iraqis don't even want foreign troops there, so why stay there, why not go to some other place which actually needed your help.

    BTW where in Iraq did you go anyways?
     
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    Gomar Well-Known Member

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    #23
    If everyone that thought US did something wrong or didn't like the way it was going and left. Believe me US would be a much shittier country right now. It's because those people that stay and try to change that and make it a better place that keeps it from going down the wrong path before it goes off the cliff.

    I'm not commenting on who's right or wrong, rather your attitude you have to someone that you have a different opinion with.
     
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    #24
    There is a difference between having sympathy for those killed and making unsubstantiated claims of mass murder by private contractors.
     
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    soniqhost.com Notable Member

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    #25
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1706121,00.html
     
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  6. M5love

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    #26
    Wow @ the moronic behaviour shown by some of you in this thread. You want to justify this ugly invasion at any cost don't you? How low can you go is the question....
     
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    #27
    It'd be a trick to do it, but if we get low enough at least you'll have company. :-p
     
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    #28
    How is saying that this was not a personal attack via the military an action to defend the Iraq invasion? You make sense less then half the time, I swear.
     
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  9. Lexiseek

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    #29
    2 years of posting for you. 1,000 posts. 1 green blob.

    You aren't making too many converts, are you?
     
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    #30
    He can't Thraxed, unfortunately he is a Texan, the closest thing he has seen in war is his battle to keep mexicans out of his back yard. Which he is not doing a good job at.
     
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  11. M5love

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    #31
    Not you, read posts of people like soniqhost and others.
     
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    M5love Well-Known Member

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    #32
    awww, and all I wanted for Christmas was 1 green blob... :rolleyes: I am happy buddy, I don't need a .gif image to feel happy.
     
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    #33
    Me neither. I could care less what anyone at DP thinks about me. Funny enough, though, I still have many blobs :)
     
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    #34

    LOL. Thanks dumplin, you're just too good to me. Btw, I left your Christmas present at your CP. It's the same thing I got for ThaXed, hope that's ok. Sorry, they only had red. :-p
     
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    #35
    SO what you are saying is that US/ UK/ Etc would still have invaded even if there was no oil there. Most people (excluding DP so it seems) woul disagree.

    The war started believe it or not in the 1920's when a starnge alliance of the UK, and then the USA with Saudi.
    Basically Saddam, who we all know was a Madman, but then again only a madman could rule Iraq, invaded Kuwait for pumping oil at an angle encroaching on Iraqi reserves.
    When Iraq invaded that gave them rougly (going from memory and it was 18 years ago) 25% of the accessable oil in the world.
    Saddam had a beef with the USA for supplying arms to the Sha of Iraq, though later the US actually supported Iraq!
    At some stage the USA convinced the Saudis that Iraq was going to cross the border and seize the Saudi Oilfields, and thus US and Coallition forces were able to base themselves in Saudi.
    The Coalition never wanted to finish of Sadam and his regime as they did not want the expense of a long and protracted campaign. Those militiman would happliy fight invaders for the next 1000 years, they just love it.
    I never really understood the second Gulf war. There was the smoke about mass destruction weapons etc and the resolutions. They were not the reasons.
    Perphaps someone can point out what I missed on the second.
    Incidentally security guards or PMC as they are normally called whom are usually ex marines, paras, sas etc used to get enormous wages for Iraq.
    The wages have dropped considerably in Iraq for such contracters and many have moved to the likes of Eithiopia etc where you guessed it...more oil.
    Here endeth the oil speech


     
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    Valley, Dec 11, 2008 IP