Searching for understanding

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Raife, Jan 21, 2015.

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    ok so talk to me people! I made the mistake of going with godaddy as a server because I lacked understanding! So SEO's!! Please guide my blindness towards an effective SEO provider/system.. Please!!!
     
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    Hosting providers have very little to do with SEO, assuming of course they work so spiders can *get* to the site.
     
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    Please enlighten me of the reality of SEO. Understand though you are talking to a peon so I'm in need ma brother!
     
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    What exactly are you trying to do? Are you trying to optimize an existing site for search engines, or?
     
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    Raife Well-Known Member

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    Yea. I'm trying to understand what SEO could offer my website and how the implementation works. Like seriously I am trying to learn a new skill so I figured I'd give html and website design/management a go.
     
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    Well these days SEO is not so much about needing to actually optimize for a search engine... it's more about making a user friendly site that end users like. Search engines are really, really smart these days and will pick up on that (things like usability). That's not to say you can't add stuff to make your site more machine readable for search engines... but the biggest thing is just to make your site useable for humans.

    As far as making underlying stuff more machine readable for search engines to understand it better, check out microdata markup. For example you can see the microdata markup for one of our product pages here:

    https://developers.google.com/webma...om%2Fsphinx-search-for-vbulletin-4.870%2Fitem

    The info on the right shows how Google sees it... can break down things like release dates, pricing, reviews, versions, etc.
     
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    Thanks mate! Much appreciated!!
     
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    How the heck did you come to understand all this stuff! It blows my mind! I seriously feel like html or programing is the future for everyone. If you have any pointers on the best way or most effective way for someone like me, a freshie just starting to play around with this stuff, could become more acquainted then that would be awesome!
     
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    Just like anything that interests you... Programming comes naturally to me just because I've always thought it's super interesting. I'd do it as a hobby even if it wasn't my work.

    Someone who's super into rocks or brewing beer or whatever else they are into (as an example) is going to find it super interesting and just want to learn more and do more with it. It's not really about learning programming, it's about finding whatever it is that *you* personally find interesting, because then it's really easy to learn.
     
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    No worries. I guess that is why I am here. I am a business focused person. Love interacting with people, love the chase of financial growth, love the excitement of growth and expansion etc.... So because business is now a question of e-commerce, I felt like it was time that I start to learn the online sector so that I can keep up with market. Now a days you need to be online, selling online, advertising online, etc, in order to even begin. Thanks for the understanding mate! your a champion. So help me understand the "likes" "Trophies" etc. Is that like a facebook thing?
     
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    They aren't anything terribly interesting... But yeah, users here can "earn" trophies by doing different things. https://www.digitalpoint.com/help/trophies

    Most of them are just an indirect way to get users to check out different parts of the site that maybe they didn't know about.
     
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    Righto. Seems legit. Thanks for the help brother.
     
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    It says if I get three likes then I can do extra stuff on the site.. What stuff are they talking about? Like extra forums and such? There are a couple I cant tap into so I am guessing that's what they are referring to.
     
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    Mostly the marketplace area... Really just an anti-spam mechanism.
     
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    There's a market place here? Dang this is like Facebook on crack!
     
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    Hah... Look around the site, you'll find lots of interesting stuff besides a forum. :)
     
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    Yea mate will do! Thanks heaps for the heads up!! Im gonna go grab me some likes so I can check the rest out!
     
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    You don't need likes for the good stuff... Go check out the tools for example.
     
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    Oh ok. I thought I was locked out of most of it until I had more likes... No worries. Ill go check out the tools
     
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    To add on to that, while SEO is not really a host's responsibility a good host CAN help you in that aspect. Mainly that relates to the speed you can get from their servers. If a host watches over their servers well, optimizes them and makes sure they are not overcrowded AND your website is well optimized (provided you have the passion for programming that should not be a biggie) you can make wonders as speed is one of the determining factors for search engines. Also, a knowledgeable host would at least be able to give you some pointers of what you may be doing wrong so you can further improve.

    But yeah, pretty much from there on, as Shawn suggested, is a great, vast area of exploration. SEO is a fascinating subject (for me at least) which requires constant attention as its frequently changing. Something that worked an year ago will most probably not work today. Might sound a little frightening but once you get the basics of how things logically work it would be a breeze. And it IS quite logical as many factors are user-oriented. When you visit a search engine or a website what do you expect to see? How do you expect it to behave? What information are you looking to find and do you find it easily? Proper on-site optimization, useful and well-written unique content, relevant and organically obtained backlinks, perks like responsive design or mobile accessibility, deep social media presence etc. And this is just the core of it...

    Basically I'd suggest you start off by reading some good starter guides like the ones from MOZ and/or SearchEngineLand, get the idea of it and start testing things (trial and error goes a long in SEO as many times standard rules will just not cut it, something that works for one might not work for the other). Meanwhile you can see how your hosting works and see if this partnership would be fruitful for you. Won't be saying nothing against GoDaddy but I have a feeling you might be looking for a better place pretty soon ;)
     
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