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Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by BusinessCoach, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. #1
    I have a post in BST

    I reported it to be closed so I can post a new and updated (and non-expired) version

    I posted the new thread.

    I got an infraction and the new post was deleted.

    I have since made several requests for the thread to be closed so I can post the new one and not get another infraction.

    MY QUESTION IS:
    how can I post a current thread on a similar service (that the sale is now OVER- and the BID PERIOD ENDED) without getting a dupe thread infraction and having it deleted?

    I just want to close the thread and have relavent information, I am not trying to spam the boards with the same thing.:(
     
    BusinessCoach, Jan 20, 2011 IP
  2. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #2
    It's not yet possible to relist things for sale.
     
    digitalpoint, Jan 20, 2011 IP
  3. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    Shawn,

    Thanks for replying.

    It is a service provided. In fact I had multiple services listed. and it was a timed sale. It expired. The services are still available, but I can not edit the offer.

    worse, because it expired, it shows up as "greyed" out in the listings. Something I just found out because I had only seen it when I am logged in. for me its nice and bold, for everyone else, it looks like a dead link (which it is)

    So I can only offer all my service "once" ever?

    If this had been made known, i would not have put an expiring post up.

    can we just delete the old one? Its not relisted IDENTICALLY either.

    what about the new services and different prices?

    very confused and frustrated :(
     
    BusinessCoach, Jan 20, 2011 IP
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    #4
    Your best option is to advertise service in your signature.
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2011
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  5. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    thbanks smyrl but then what do I link them to?

    and isn't BST to sell services?

    so i had 3 whole days to offer service, and now I can't ever offer it again? whereas if i had not put an expiration i could have sold forever?

    do you see how that is not fair, especially without notice?
     
    BusinessCoach, Jan 20, 2011 IP
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    Link to your existing thread. Interested parties can obtain needed info and contact you if they are interested or want more information.
     
    Smyrl, Jan 21, 2011 IP
  7. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    so basically, i paid for extra highlighting in BST and but could only use it once?????

    people go to BST to LOOK for services...they don't scroll through signatures.

    I surely would not have paid for recurring premium membership to get 3 days of bst and then never be able to advertise again...ever. :(
     
    BusinessCoach, Jan 21, 2011 IP
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    There are perks associated with Premium Membership but posting guidelines are same for all members. Premium membership is better suited for some sellers than others.
     
    Smyrl, Jan 21, 2011 IP
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    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    uh gee thanks
     
    BusinessCoach, Jan 21, 2011 IP
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    #10
    You may want to check these threads for more info :)

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2073036
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2059096
    Hope that helps~
     
    ~~~~, Jan 26, 2011 IP
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    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    doesn't help...just shows that it doesn't make sense, not only to me, but many other trusted dp members.

    It silly to have an expiration and closing if you can not relist an item - whether it sells or not.

    to add insult to injury, not only can one not EDIT the entry, but then it is obfuscated to virtually disappear in the few places it DOES show up

    Think about it.

    Sometimes I wonder why there is a BST in the first place, the changes that are always made to it seem to purposefully discourage a competitive environment.
     
    BusinessCoach, Jan 26, 2011 IP
  12. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #12
    So your solution is to allow everyone to post duplicate threads once a week or something?

    Seems like B/S/T would become completely useless since everything there would just be reposted every week and people's threads would get pushed down even faster.

    The only viable solution that would make people happy would be if they could create duplicate threads/bump and no one else could.
     
    digitalpoint, Jan 26, 2011 IP
  13. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    Shawn, I am not saying that at all.

    No one wants a bunch of spam on the bst.

    I understand what you are trying to prevent...but i think the problem is far less severe then making it out to be. The only peopl ebeing hurt are the legitimate sellers. The spammers just keep creating new accounts and are happy to skate by a day or two before getting infracted, and ultimately banned.

    I am saying that "duplicate" should be reasonably defined

    In other words, what is the point of a 3-day listing when in reality it is a one time listing.

    Its great to have added the "auction" feature to DP, but to go back to some 1999 version of an auction, as if technology only allows us to list an item once, and whether or not it sells is too bad...just doesnt make sense in 2011.

    Lets say I have domain for sale. I put it up for 3 days. It doesnt sell at reserve price. Well now I am stuck... I can not "relist", "edit" or repost the site.

    If I have a website that I am selling advertising links or banners on, If I do not sell them all, if i change my pricing, if a new slot opens up...I can't sell it because you guys have this wierd definition of "duplicate"

    If I do web design, and sell it. and get a customer, and work and do the job. Then am done and am looking for more work...I CANT GET ANY..because thats a DUPLICATE by your definition.

    I am not trying to open up to spammers. I am talking about having a reasonable "marketplace"

    The solution is simple.

    Just as I suggested. CLOSE THE THREAD ORIGINAL THREAD. it will sink to the bottom. It can not be bumped, replied to etc. The new thread is the only one open and active.

    Or LET SOMEONE EDIT THE THREAD.

    I have owned and managed dozens of VB forums over the years....I KNOW you can adjust the edit time as well as there are mods that will allow you under circumstance to go back and edit after closed.

    In fact, you have the "fancy" bump feature...why not allow one EDIT per week also on the same bumped thread. This is not difficult programming we are talking here. Simple settings in VB and mod code.


    The issue we sellers have is that you do not seem to grasp that DUPLICATE and SIMILAR are not the same.

    a third of this entire FORUM should be infracted for "duplicate posts"

    All you have to do is watch any 90 day (or more) period here on DP...and its the same questions and conversations asked over and over.

    How many threads say "how can i increase my adsense revenue", or "how do I make money online" or "how do i get to the top of google"...those do not get infracted as "duplicates"...they are similar, but not duplicates, often by the same people!

    I ran a "special"...that special is over. The pricing and the things in the package are no longer available in that way. But there are SIMILAR services...different pricing, different bundle...yet was flagged as a "duplicate"

    You can even put a limit on the number of times one can post a thread that is SIMILAR. (mine is not a "duplicate" but offers SIMILAR services) if you wanted.

    I mean, seriously, Think about it.

    If YOU did not OWN this site, and you tried to sell ads and banner space for a forum under the current DP BST system IT WOULD NOT WORK FOR YOU...would it?

    you would then join us "complainers", who are really PREMIUM members saying, "Shawn, this is not working for us"

    Since I don't really know you, I am not sure if that matters to you or not, but it is what it is.
     
    BusinessCoach, Jan 26, 2011 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #14
    As I've said numerous times in the past, the ability to relist something is on the to-do list. But allowing people to spam their sale every week in the meantime (until it's working) isn't something we are going to allow.
     
    digitalpoint, Jan 26, 2011 IP
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    lol @ spam

    I guess you miss the point

    i gotcha

    thanks shawn

    always a pleasure hearing from you
     
    BusinessCoach, Jan 27, 2011 IP
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    How about 30 days or even 90 days ? Srsly when why allow a thread to be closed forever and ever if the seller might have need of it in the unforeseen future ? There's not even the slightest of warnings when you post an auction thread that is limited by time , but when the time is up it's considered alive ad kicking . It just doesn't make sense . It's like a hidden option for one to shoot himself in the foot .

    I may be wrong but this beautiful policy began to be reinforced only a couple of weeks ago and so far it brought baned members and unhappy members . From what I can see more and more members are stunned by this sudden discovery of rules . There are tons of duplicate threads that shamelessly exist on certain sections yet the mod team hasn't reached them yet (in almost a month) . I'm don't have any knowledge of Shawn's famous to-do list but the ability to relist a item and edit the OP/title should become IMHO the top priority .
     
    ApocalypseXL, Jan 27, 2011 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    It wasn't recently created or enforced. It's been around for years.
     
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    thats funny :D

    but true :(


    Shawn, you heard Apoc, DROP EVERYTHING you are doing and code the relist function man!:rolleyes:

    It's clear to me now why you probably don't take this as seriously urgent as MOST of us do. lol

    so, since you are doing what we want as you clearly have nothing better to do, I was thinking the forum needs a lottery system. Please be sure to have that done by the end of the week:cool:
     
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    @BusinessCoach : You seem to reinterpret my reply in a imperative and rude way . Remember that just because Shawn provides us whit feedback doesn't mean that he is obligated to listen to us in any way . It's his forum his rules , so please don't push it .

    I am aware that the rules haven't changed but this carpet bombing of infractions began a few days before this post was made :

    I could be horribly wrong but that's how thing look from where I'm standing . In spite of the recent actions there are sections that abound in duplicates simply because the team hasn't reached them yet . While this rule prevents spam and a waste of disk space it's recent actions seem to be hurting the community quite a lot . The elite members seem to be taking a lot of the heat .

    Perhaps one of the perks of the premium package should be that it will allow you to repost a thread every 30 days (90 days for regular members) . I am convinced that this won't generate SPAM in BST and that it will provide you the time needed to code that precious relist option . What do you think ?
     
    ApocalypseXL, Jan 27, 2011 IP
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    Premium members can bump every seven days.
     
    Smyrl, Jan 27, 2011 IP