Instead of lots of hype from people who have one or two posts on DP I thought it might be helpfull for you to see a random sampling of the so called high pr sites you can post on if you are a member of SearchEngineTrust.com freesiaboutique dot com closequarterly dot org wasteddomains dot net chewbecca dot net All of searchenginetrust.com links are broken up into two sections, one is high pr and the other is link popular sites, the above links are from the so called high pr section so instead of listening to some new posters check the links out yourself and then decide if its worth the money. My suggestion is save your money and look elsewhere for links.
With the co owner Tommy sending out mail soliciting people to post to this thread, I can see what a bunch of con artists they are
Dude, SET for me has been the equivalent of doing a quantum leap. SET works, spot on and MUCH more than promised. I’ve proven SET to myself, with what I feel was zero risk. I’ll keep you posted if SET goes bust, lol. Sure you don’t need SET to get great rankings…And you can go from Cleveland to Key West by horse–n-buggy. ) BUT dude, Why would ya, unless it’s a religious belief not to go by jet. All our bold and outspoken ‘Naysayers’ on the forums,,, feels to me, like kids on the street yelling “Get a Horse, Get-a-Horseâ€!! to the guys driving up the road in the worlds' first automobiles. Yeah, SET is a big boy tool-set and the more I play with it the I more become a big boy. I see two changes in the future of SET… >Think about this, SET becomes hard to get OR they close it (I wish they would) just wish they’d sell me a lifetime membership. SET is for guys or girls with brass balls and with a vision equal to: the power of The F15… >At a price of 10 X the current price point…SET is it’s a deal to die for. Yes, there are droves of Faux Gurus out and about selling pure crap, got my share. AND for those who want a horse, no problem. I like a good horse at the track. Rock on SET Vidkid
I can live with people saying they don't like the idea of posting on SET for SEO reasons but it is hard to sit back and hear con artist and scam. I asked people who were users of our system to share their honest experiences. to balance the lies being stated about us. I am not looking to upset anyone...nor challenge anyone I have 14,000 people on lists and have never solicited them to buy anything If I wanted to sell I would start there There has to be open and honest conversation for example Greg posted several our sites (which is a T&C's violation) that had at one time had PR but because of posting it lost its PR at the last update the list of site available in that network is over 400 several 6's and 7's (plus numerous 3's, 4's and 5's) It's not a complete picture to show only 4 or 5 URL's but yes Gregs right some of our sites lose their pr - the whole purpose of SET is to pass the PR to the members and pass it we did That is why we add over 150 new sites each month to each network But yes some sites lose rank but then approximately 20% go up in rank but greg is correctly pointing out that there are a # of sites that lose their PR completely- less than 10% we balance that by adding new PR sites all the time...our answer is we add new sites all the time Is SET perfect? - Not by a longshot Is SET a cure all? - NOT by a longshot as for me asking SET users to defend the system from the accusation of scam and con artist- I asked them not to sell but to attest to it's strength based on their experiences I asked them to be honest To me its ok to argue the details of any product or service but to write that we are scamming people is way over the top and totally uncalled for That means Ed Dale is part of the scam If you haven't noticed we didn't do some big affiliate scorch the earth roll out where the price is inflated to cover affiliates we didn't take that route Honor is a funny thing online... I am totally willing to set up any test anyone can dream up to prove our our honor Disagree with our service but all I ask is that you keep it to the actual facts The 14,000 people on my list are 90% IM'ers (the rest are business owners) I have created private networks that they use for free...it's not the full magilla SET is but it delivers improved ranking, albeit slower that SET but it delivers If I wanted to sell them I could- instead we offered free links for as long as they want and for as long as they need them - no strings - no obligation nobody is saying SET is a cure all nobody is saying SET is your salvation Its also perfectly alright to disagree with the concept of SET (although after reading your forum I will say there is far worse blackhat being discussed than anything SET touches upon) I asked people to post because I wanted to hear from actual users Tommy As for being called Tommy the Tool - again your right...I have made millions online and i love the internet. To show my gratitude - Over the last 3 years I have built up lists (14k active members) and created over 100 videos on how to do business online. I gave them away for free. I answer every email I get. I created the SET style network so they can get traffic. I gave that away for free. I have covered every subject you an imagine. I never sold them a them a thing. It was totally one way- I gave and gave. I did it because the internet has been very good to me. I hope I am a tool. I know 14,000 people who would agree with you as well. I know you meant it as an insult... not everyone online is an ass and out to do harm
Personally, I find it sad that some people jump to conclusions with very little or no information at all. SET works for me and if the rest of the internet marketing world fails to see its power, that's fine with me, as then I will have less competition. Paul
You will also see your primary targeted keyphrase is "Autographed Memorabilia" Autographed Memorabilia - Results 1.6 Million Allinurl:Autographed Memorabilia - 15,600 Allintitle:Autographed Memorabilia - 61,000 Result: Playbyplay.com Not in top 100 Secondry Keyphrase - "Autographs original" Autographs original - Results 1.2 Million Allinurl:Autographs original - Results 3,970 Allintitle:Autographs original - Results 64,700 Result: Playbyplay.com Not in top 100 Great your ranking nowhere on terms achievable by spamming a couple of guestbooks for free. This really attests the power of your 600 backlinks huh, i though you were supposed to come here and "sell" the system and not make a mockery of it. Good day.
nobody is selling you on SET - by all means don't sign up People were calling it a scam and I asked actual users to post. If your concerned that our users people here haven't posted enough times to please you or your not satisfied with their results then lets just test SET or your not satisfied with the results of all the testimonials on the SET sales page Then pick something that would be a fair test and we'll do it. This way the facts will do all the talking not my word or even those of the actual users... but results I can live with your not liking SET because you feel guest book spamming is better (which it isn't) or some other blackhat technique then that's a matter of opinion and your welcome to it but you can't stand here and call it a scam pick something that would be a fair test and we'll do it. Tommy
Wow. I used to be interested when I read the heading. Then I read the first post promoting some url posted by someone without any other posts outside this thread and I got mildly turned off. Scrolling through the pages and seeing all those posts by new members I didn't even bother about the title anymore. Way to turn off prospective customers by spamming in such a blunt manner. You could have made an interesting case for your POS (piece of s....) software or whatever you are promoting, but you just turned off people. Way to go. Unfortunately there is no way to verify this and the posting pattern looks very suspicious. Just about every web community gets bombarded with SPAM every day and it is very annoying. If those are real users, you have managed to replicate the pattern of a spam post. Basically you have dug your own hole by asking people to come here and help you promote. It doesn't work in a forum of intelligent people who look at post counts and other things to spot spam. Basically you have triggered this response, so that people won't even bother checking your product.
Just wondering, are the links permanent? In other words, when you unsubscribe from SET are your posts/links removed from the system? Also, it Seems like it would be quite trivial for Google to devalue links from this whole network with very little effort.
I don't "think" guestbook spamming is good, however i know i could nail page 1 of your mates keyphrase's with guestbook spamming alone which attests to the power of your FFA blog backlinks. I've got a great test, see if you and your cronies can refrain from posting on this site about SET again.
Andre75, this is a well respected and large forum. there were lies being spread about SET. By all means do not buy SET. I wasn't concerned about it looking like we are promoting SET and also not concerned that it "looks" like we are spamming here. There were accusations being made I asked people to be honest about their experiences. I also asked them not to sell. Please understand that the reputation of ones company is a fragile thing. we have worked hard to always do the right thing. I wanted those that posted to know that you cannot just make up accusations about us. I am sorry if it appears that we are marketing here , we are not marketing SET. We are not getting out of business in 2 months and we have a reputation that is strong and honest and we wanted to protect it. this isn't some BS forum - this place is very well respected It would trouble anyone that was being lied about in a well respected forum to not respond looks like we agreed with the lie. Sad to say but this is part of doing business online. If someone was interested in our company and came hear and searched info about SET then this thread answers there question but if we stayed away then the lie is all they read If the forum is respected and someone calls us con artists and a scam then we needed to respond Online you live and die by your reputation We didn't create the thread and we didn't respond until after lies were posted Not everybody is out to do harm. All we wanted was for a few users to post their honest experiences. I asked them to be honest If someone doesn't sign up for SET because we posted here then so be it i would rather that then someone thinking we were dishonest Sorry to waste your forum time with garbage like this I can imagine you have better stuff to do then read this for us it was a matter of pride - simple as that I meant what I said - pick something that would be a fair test and we'll do it. we walk the walk and we'll prove it
Am I the only one who sees a contradiction in the above two sentences from you last post. That is perfectly understandable and I have no issue with that. The only thing I pointed out was the pattern of your post. I made no accusations (as you so blatantly claim). Instead I told you that if a certain amount of people with no history flock into a well respected forum to give "testimonials" it looks an awful lot like spam. If I write an email to a friend of mine and put Viagra in the Subject line I am pretty sure it will end up in the spam filter. So I won't do that. Maybe you should consider your losses and re-think your marketing approach. DP members can be very helpful (so I have heard). Make some good posts outside this thread, build a reputation and refrain from mentioning your program everywhere you can and you will see people will appreciate your forum links.
Andre, first off Relax I was not saying you made the accusations, I was talking about previous posts. I took your comments as somone giving sound advice to a new visitor to DP It's hard to have people trash all your hard work, it's impossible to stand by and allow it Somebody just gets to randomly decide we're dishonest and we just have to take it As I said I have thousands of marketers on lists who we have our service for free no timeframe - no obligation - free I read all the garbage sold online If I wanted to sell I would have started there - I didn't I have never sold to the list - I did it to help people I created over 100 videos on every topic known to man regarding marketing and making money online - gave them away for free To me the internet is a real thing- I respect it it has done right by me and I feel I owe something in return I don't visit to many forums anymore and truthfully I am literally shaking my head Why is defending ourselves from lies being looked down upon? we thought enough of the DP forum to chance responses like sweetfunny and Koolade It mattered to us what was being said here and more importantly what was being believed I am sorry if I violated forum etiquette I wasn't looking to piss in anyones cheerios as for offering additional proof to back up my claim well I didn't want anyone to think we were all talk Where I am from you back up what you say As I said not everyone online is out to do harm
Tommy: Here is another little piece of advice: All the posters who signed up on your behalf have the same posting style (lots of empty lines), which grossly differs from the style of most other people greatly adding to the perception that they are all one and the same person. Ultimately it will be up to the mods to decide, as they can see the IPs and I cannot.
Well, Um, thanks for all the feedback I guess. Since no one here who has been on these forums for any great length of time has bought the system and wants to comment on it then I think I might take the plunge and test it. I'm happy to report back if anyone is interested in my findings. The reason its got me in a tizzy is that I respect Ed Dale as an Internet Marketer and he's recommended it. I'd like to thank andre75 and sweetfunny for their contributions, they seem to be the only long term members that have made posts on this thread. Thanks again everyone, even the new members, welcome to DP
Here is my 2c. Firstly, I question the reason this thread was even started. Why would you make a decision on weather or not to use this service based on what people say in a forum? That is a bad idea right there. Why not just test it for yourself? It's really not that hard. Takes 2 seconds to setup the money page and get the links. There is a money back guarantee and Tommy challenged anyone to put it to the test right here on this open forum. Also If I knew it worked I wouldn’t post that it did on a public forum anyways. Do you think the people who know certain tricks get their kicks out of posting it on forums? They are the ones lurking on this thread laughing their asses off. The people who actually take the time to test it should enjoy the benefits. Personally, I haven’t used SET just yet. However I am currently a new member and I’m setting up lots of money pages using a very similar strategy to was given in the training videos. I’m very confident that what I am doing will work. Why? a) This system or a system very similar was suggested by people whose opinion I trust. (And no it’s not from a forum; I don’t really even waste my time with that, too much mish mash and confusion, you really have to learn how to think for yourself, I had trouble with this in the past and perhaps still do but avoiding forums is a great start) b) I have reverse engineered some money pages that are ranking very well for terms I plan to target and I see they have links ONLY from SET. That is a good sign. I have personally had my eye on this market for years and I’m truly amazed how high their pages are ranking for what little links they have. (in other words I’m gonna kick their ass c) This is not black hat stuff and the general strategy can be used for a long time to come if you can see the forest through the trees. I also realize that people can be skeptical of offers. Trust me I have made some wrong decisions in the past on offers that seemed too go to be true, you want to challenge me on that PM me an I’ll show you the shit show. IMHO, if this dose not work for me, Ill get my money back and move onto another of the 100's of "got to have tools" that show up in my inbox each day. I suggest you do the same if you don’t like it.
tmltml What a funny reply: "Why would you make a decision on weather or not to use this service based on what people say in a forum? That is a bad idea right there." Your just barking up the wrong tree. I asked for peoples views, I never said I would make my decision based on peoples views. I was doing what some would call "due diligence", in fact I never said I would even make a decision. And based on Google's ever changing ranking system I think everyone should do their due diligence before using any system of link building, regardless of cost. "Also If I knew it worked I wouldn’t post that it did on a public forum anyways." So I guess you're not much help to people in this community then, I like to share whatever I can to help other people out, most other members are the same and that's what makes this community worth the time contributing to.
WOW. What a lot of new users posting to this thread...with the exception of SweetFunny. And they're all saying the same thing.... Dude, the layout of the SET site says it all. Perhaps you should invest in a real web site designer and not use that stupid template. At least then you wouldn't "appear" to be a snake-oil salesman.