So in your dictionary weak = lie? Okay got it.. So Al-Tirmidhi is a lie and not authentic, Okay got it too.. No you are a fake Muslim, because you are a fake Muslim.. You disobey Allah everyday.
There are different reasons why a Hadith is declared weak, and yes it could be a lie/fabrication, I'm not going to bother teaching you because you seem to know everything already. Al-Tirmidhi was a Persian scholar, what do you mean "is he a lie and not authentic?", you don't make sense. Stop pretending you know what you are talking about. Everyone sins, whether Muslim or not.
Yes, and this particular Hadith is considered weak because the chain of narration is weak. You could have said that. Now it could be a misinterpretation or miscommunication, but you can not claim its an utter lie. Oh why, thank you. Duh, I meant Sunan al-Tirmidhi.. I don't pretend... Nope, Muslim by definition means one who submits to Allah. If you commit sins knowingly, you have no faith in Allah. Thus you are not a Muslim. You are a sinner, and you know that. You do not repent, you do not submit to Allah, you disobey his messages knowingly, that's why I call you a fake Muslim. I'm not making it up. My friend, who is a devout Muslim, told me that.
It's upon you to tell me why the Hadith is authentic, if you don't know it's authentic you should never made the claim you made. You don't make a claim, then look for the evidence. I was being sarcastic. Sunan Al-Tirmidhi, is a collection of Hadith, not all the Hadith in this book are authentic. Even if one commits a sin knowingly s/he can still repent and be forgiven. You are doing the same as you did earlier, you make a claim without having a shred of evidence.
You have proof of the "existence" of your god? I'm 100% sure you do not. You have a book which was written by pedophiles hundreds of years ago and are preach by the modern day pedophiles today.
Wow what a sad show . It seems that Helvetti is the only atheist with the balls to pick on Muslims , the rest stand behind him and trow snot from time to time . Still there should be some nice lulz .
You ask poeple to prove that God does not exist. So with that logic, it's up to you to prove that the Hadith is not authentic. Come on, do that.. And before you do that, I'd like you to know (probably you are not aware) that a hadith is a quotes or actions from no other than Mohammad himself. Whatever Allah told him, he conveyed it to his followers. Later on scholars made a collection of his messages as his followers recounted them. Now when you question a hadith, you question whether Mohammad was right. And when you question Mohammad, you question Allah's message. It's another sin. I'd say an epic fail in sarcasm.. And please don't modify my statements. I didn't say "yesOh why, thank you" I said "Oh why, thank you". Yeah, if you say so... Like I'm gonna take words of a fake Muslim on something as sensitive as a Hadith!! If (with a huge emphasis on IF) s/he repents but as I said, you do not.. I repeatedly pointed out that Quran does not permit you to hurl abuses. I repeatedly asked you to repent but I have yet to see an apology. You've been given chance after chance, but you refused. You don't repent because you do not have faith in Quran's teaching. Thus my point stands, you are a fake Muslim. Your own behavior is the evidence of that. Repent before it's too late.
This is the chain of narrators for this Hadith: Hisham ibn Khalid narrated from Abu Marwan from Khalid ibn Yazid from ibn Abi Malik from his father from Khalid ibn Madan from Abi Umamah that he reported Allah's Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ saying: [then comes the Hadith itself]. The man named Khalid Ibn Yazid in the above chain is known to be a weak narrator, therefore the whole Hadith is declared weak. I know this is too complex for you to understand, that's why I keep telling you to stick to what you know best, don't make claims that you have no evidence for. There's a difference between insults and criticism I told you this before. Also if you want others to treat you nicely, you have to do the same, I'm harsh with you because you are just a plain old idiot.
Being weak doesn't mean its an outright lie.. But I know it's too complex for you to understand.. Criticism does not require insult and name calling my child. I criticize you all the time, do you see me calling you an idiot, imbecile, retarded or stupid? Again, if you had faith in Quran's teaching, you would have realized that you should give respect to everyone, even to your worst enemies. You refuse to acknowledge your sins like a stubborn and spoiled child. I don't know who to blame for that. You refuse to repent. With every post you make you confirm that you are a fake Muslim. I don't care what you think of me, I only give love and expect nothing in return. I'm just so sad about your soul.. Satan has corrupted your soul, you have no hope unless you repent and correct your behavior. Don't worry. I wont give up on you... I'm determined to save your soul!!
I see a problem Houston... he thinks he's already saved... this should be interesting... please carry on....
I actually posted the wrong chain of narrators, but you get the point. In the chain of narrators there was 1 or more weak narrators, there is no reason for us to believe it is authentic, we are not required to believe that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم actually said this, full stop. Yes. The first post you ever dedicated for me was filled with insults, I was wondering why a new guy on this forum would talk to me like that, I knew you was someone that has been on the forum for a long time but changed his nick or whatever. It's becoming more clear now that you are Helvetti. I suggest you try to make it less obvious.
You can choose what to believe and what not to believe. But your belief doesn't make anything a lie. Lying is worst of all the sins. And you are lying. This is my first ever post addressed to you. Kindly point out where it is filled with insults. Infact I guess it was my first ever post in P&R forums. Found in this thread: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2209287&p=16418604#post16418604 On the contrary, being the fake Muslim that you are, you started replying with personal insults And being as forgiven as I am. I just laughed it off, because I only give love and expect nothing in return. Pity mate, you commit sins after sins. Your are an abusive and a liar. You shouldn't even think that you are a Muslim, let alone saying it aloud. I hate to think you take Allah's name with that same mouth of yours. Pity, a real pity. I ask you again, apologize and repent.
I believe in something when there is evidence for it. In this case there is no evidence, therefore no belief. The first word ? Then you go on to mock me. I don't want to talk about this because quite frankly I don't care what others call me, you can call me all you like, I just hate it when a hypocrite like you demands an apology. You cannot go around demanding apologies when you yourself are guilty of the crimes you accuse me of.
The first word? Wet dreams? 'Wet Dreams' is an insult? May be to you it is an insult, and if you found it offensive then I sincerely apologize. You should have said so.. Then I go on to mock you? Did I make you cry? Aw, sorry for that too!!! Did I call you a retard or an idiot or imbecile or stupid? No, I don't think so. Let me check again.. Nope I can't see them, can you? I never said you should not use sarcasm. Sarcasm is perfectly fine, I said you should not hurl abuses to people. Mate, you claimed that my first ever post was filled with insults towards you, and the best you can come up with one word? Where did I hurl abuses to you? Talk about hypocrisy now.. I never asked you to apologize to me, because I have already forgiven you. As I said I only give love and expect nothing in return. I asked you to apologize to whole forum, for being abusive liar. I asked you to acknowledge your sins and repent before it's too late. But as I said, you refuse to acknowledge your sins and behave like a stubborn and soiled child. How am I guilty of crimes that I accuse you of? First of all, I'm an atheist so I do not believe in God. Second, I do not lie, I do not hurl insults to people. Do not be a sinner mate, open your eyes and see your sins, don't let Satan corrupt your soul. Save your soul while you can. Repent IsraeI, Repent.
I should not have said "filled with insults", it was a stretch. But you did insult, you did mock and this was your first post on p&r. And I don't care, call me all you like. Just don't complain when I start criticizing you, or when I ignore your posts. I won't be wasting my time with you any longer, so have a nice day.
There there, I already see improvements.. Called your prediction a wet dream. Insulted your prediction, not you. And when I found out that you found it offensive, I apologized. Did you see that? I don't complain mate. I care for your soul. I don't want you to end up in hell, they say it's a nasty place. Criticism is fine, sarcasm is fine, ignoring is fine, insults and name calling are not. I don't say that, Quran does. Dear dear, how many times have you said that already!! Don't waste your time, acknowledge your sins, and repent.. And you too have a nice day. PS: don't forget to repent..