Scamming WTB posts need to stop

Man I am so tired of the fake WTB content threads that just want to add their yahoo or gmail lists. Why do these people not decide what they want before posting and just say, so many words, these topics, why do they have to have a time wasting conversation?

I just responded to a member with 56 ratings who wanted (demanded) an add to yahoo messenger before he would talk any further. Shall we just take it on faith these people are not legit? They want a resposne asap but then are never available?

If they can't narrow their own assignments before talking to you, how much can they really be thinking about hiring for real? i have a woman now asking me "what's that going to cost me"? She doesn't know how to close a deal.

Most of the people i have added on this board to messenger have not responded in any way for hiring. They just want the added contacts to publicise their websites. When will the spam building requirment to responding to a content writing ad stop? I don't want to chat I want to begin work.

 

i guess you can report such threads as email lists sales threads are not allowed. infractions are better choice for them

 

Yes, I do feel what you are feeling right now.

There is this one person whom I added in ym for a writing gig, then he was very busy answering my queries and it took him an hour or so to respond to me and told me to add up another ym which he told me who is responsible handling the content stuff. So I added her, and guess what it took her days to reply to me

She said there will be work on Monday guess what it's already Saturday still no work. I mean these people are just as bad as they can get.

They keep on telling don't waste my time, yet they waste our precious time which can be used in order to search for other gigs and earn money.

Here is another guy who added me up, he said he is going to give me work and now he is asking many questions about stuff and this... and never even bother to give me work since he still don't have money. What ah??!!

Infractions will never do no good they also do that anyways...

 

Listen amarventris, if you want to write for real, go to rentacoder.com. DP is a fantastic site (I'm loving it more and more everyday), but it's not an adequate freelance site. It has no provisions to protect you and it's not supposed to either. Go to rentacoder.com and work through it. I get clients from that site and I refer clients who find me elsewhere to that site. Because of the site's protections, I won't work with anyone not willing to sign a contract through (once again...) rentacoder.com Doing anything else is just too risky.

 

Here's some friendly advice:

Instead of replying to WTB posts, why don't you post a WTS thread so potential serious buyers will contact you.

Your posts are well-written, so I wanted to find your rates but don't see a sale thread in your old posts. Ordinarily I would just move on, but seeing this thread here I thought I would give some input from a buyers point of view.

Put up a post offering your services with rates, and link it from your sig. I'm sure you'll get serious buyers.

 

Totally agree a guy extended a deal for 3-4 months and later says i am not interested .. SAD

 

Thanks jump and docu i will follow up. Another forum my clients posted testimonials under my sales linky and people started Pm ing like mad.

 

Those people are very professional. They want to clear all their requirement in one post.

 

I just got an illiterate, expletive filled response to an entire suite of site articles from someone who claims I didn't know anything about SEO hosting. Yet my content for their site was filled with the detail from the site they offered as the example.

Digitalpoint has the worst, scammiest, most dishonest clients, A few are good but writers here have to get burned 300% to clear any profit.

 

Finding work in the forums is always rife with risks. There are no client-provider safety nets to start with, so you need to watch your back all the time. I hope the client didn't publish your articles and badmouth you at the same time.

 

Published them in the feedback without paying

 

Yikes! That looks very bad indeed. I just visited a general thread a while back. If you're a paying member, you can have DP mediate the case for you. I'm not sure if anyone's actually tried it and how the intervention works.

 

I am writing for two websites about writing online. I am going to share my horrible DP experiences and hope potential writers get the message to stay away. A friend of mine said DP "is for poor people". Now I get why. You turn poor writing for nonpayers.

Peace.

 

You whine a lot. You are making a bad experience that YOU created worse. Just relax for awhile, take a few deep breaths and come back when you are not so angry. I think that would be a wise choice.

You have literally no writing skills to speak of. I have read all of your posts and I don't think you are as good as you think you are. So just relax. You will get over it some day. And just get paid in advance from now on and call it a lesson learned.

 

Second the above post. All you do is cry. Learn to differentiate the better clients from the ones just trying to screw writers. There are at least 4-5 offers everyday which does NOT involve people paying peanuts for a quality job. You just need to learn to be patient and approach only those who look serious. Mention your rates straight away, stick to PM's and take advance if iTrader is less than 5 (preferably 10). I've also seen through experience that those offering "long term jobs" are merely out to get work at discounted rates and then disappear (or worse, make off with a lot of articles and never pay). If you satisfy your clients, a majority usually come back for more articles.

Money isn't growing on trees, so learn to play it smart and earn it rather than think it will fall into your lap. Lastly, one tip I just remembered is that you must avoid posting in the topic saying "I'm interested, PM me". Not saying you are doing that, but I think that way you won't get a single client for sure. You're supposed to contact the client, not the other way around.

In short, stop crying and start doing.

 

Nope, wrong again. The good clients I have here I can't get trader rankings from because they Pm'd me and the brilliant digitalpoint software won't let me post the feedback without a posted deal thread first.

 

Nope. You are ignoring what I am saying. The system here is built for bad hiring members to exploit. A writer has to do the work and get burned and blow a trader rating to negative to police the situation when digitalpoint should be screening these nuts.

if you READ the guy's traderneg, he says "this is why I wanted to PM". I said specifically I would not do that. This is HOW the problem gets started because these idiots wanted to be spoon fed a new site and not pay.
Funny this doesn't happen on two other forums I use and I use the exact same communication and links.

That means DP clients are the scammers.

ps you read all of my posts? Do you think I spend all my time here? What a ludicrously ignorant remark.

 

No writing skills to speak of? that must be why i am busy with client work all day.


this is what the memebr posted in the trader rating
"He is a complete newbie, No writing seance. Very Unsatisfied. West of time. "

Does this tell you what kind of scammer he is? Probably drunk on his cousin's credit card at the time.

Maybe you don't understand my anger. There have been so many deals on this board and NO OTHER that go south. Same brain, same keyboard used.

i had one guy email me he wanted an auction article, and the guy who won the auction wouldn't even ever answer my email. I had one guy on here email me he wanted the article. I sent it. He negged me because he (say it with me) did not want to pay.

 

1. If you don't like the iTrader system, tough cookies. Rather than complaining, learn how to use it properly. Start a sales thread of your own, and then it doesn't matter if clients PM you. As long as either you or the client has an open relevant thread in BST areas (not freebies), you can exchange iTrader. Better yet, if you're as good as you think you are, work on targeting the underground market here where the real money is -- not wasting so much time in the BST area. Don't know what that is? Do a quick search. I, and others, have explained it here numerous times before.

2. Take responsibility for your own business dealings. You'll only get scammed if you let it happen. It's your job as a service provider to thoroughly vet any potential clients before you invest time in their projects, just as it's their job to research your own past dealings before entering into a business relationship. Staff here will not intercede. If you don't take responsibility for your business, don't expect anyone else to.

3. Knock off the bickering kiddies. This is the second thread I've seen today with disputes between these members, and if I see it again, everyone's getting infractions until you learn to play nice.