Scammer scanning whois info and spamming owners

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by promo, May 19, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi all..

    Just thought I would let you in on some guy spamming my Email with fictious offers on domain names..

    First I get this Email.. Two days after the domain was registered..



    Hello,

    Please send me price for your domain.

    We are very interested in this name.

    Did you get offers from other people already?

    Our company develops client-server systems ( MS SQL/ Visual C++ ), so investing
    in domain names is not my main business.

    Looking forward to do business with you.

    Best regards,
    Koichi Nakagami, Ph. D.
    President
    Opera Systems Ltd.

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    NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
    information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
    viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
    unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
    message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
    and deleting it from your computer.

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    So I reply to the guy.. Asking how he got my Email and how come he was interested in this particular name (it was abscur).. I gave him a wild price of 500€.. So he writes this back ...



    500. Ok.

    Do you sell a web site or just the name? We are mostly interested in domain
    names.

    Do you have an appraisal certificate?

    Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your
    name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit
    in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market
    value of your domain.

    Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal
    company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals.
    I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I know and trust.

    To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies
    in a forum
    http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/75039.htm

    Juck check this posting.

    If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.
    I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value.

    After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

    How do you prefer to get paid: www.escrow.com, www.PayPal.com check or
    wire?

    Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

    Looking forward to your reply.


    I sent him this reply.. He dident answer for some reason :)...


    Hi Koichi Nakagami, Ph. D.

    I had a look at the forum thread you posted for me. I can hear from your letter that you are new in this business and I will try and help you out.

    First off let me tell you that the advice you received in the forum is totally wrong. This is probably due to it being a small and dubious forum. These people dont know anything.

    I have had personal dealings with somebody affiliated with both http://alldomains.com and http://www.GreatDomains.com.. These people actually do whois searches and spam domain owners with veiled proposals for domain appraisals. + they think people are morons, which actually kinda reflects back at them..!

    Secondly I can tell you I allready have a proffesional appraisal for obscuredomainname.info. This is not the kind of hack job you would get from the scammers at alldomains, this is the REAL DEAL! And let me tell you are going to get more than 10 - 15% discount.. If I sell it to you for 500€ you will get a domain that had an estimated actual value of $9,842.00 !!! Imagine what you could resell this domain for!! What a deal huh?

    Have a look at these sample stats from the actual appraisal

    obscuredomainname.info

    Combined Value Score: 81
    Top Level Domain Score: 3
    Unwanted Characters Score: 10
    Dictionary Word Score: 50
    Length Score: 8
    Archive.org Score: 0
    Google Search Results: 5
    Yahoo Search Results: 8
    MSN Search Results: 1
    Search Engine Score: 10

    I am really not sure if I want to part with this domain.. But if you paypal me 500€ with in the next 60 minutes I will come to my senses..

    My Paypal is :



    Please be very carefull when entering the Email adress in the payee field, Else you might send the money to someone completely different..

    All the best

    Promo
     
    promo, May 19, 2006 IP
  2. adamjthompson

    adamjthompson Well-Known Member

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    I've seen scams like this before. Exactly where does the benefit for the scammer come in? Are they getting kickbacks from the "appraisal companies"?

    ~Adam
     
    adamjthompson, May 19, 2006 IP
  3. promo

    promo Well-Known Member

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    Well.. I think he owns the appraisel company :) ..

    He probably Just got some hosting reseller account and the appraisals service came along with the turnkey site..

    I havent bothered reporting him though
     
    promo, May 19, 2006 IP
  4. damitssam

    damitssam Member

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    Old appraisal scam. No use reporting :( . He makes new emails and names.
     
    damitssam, May 21, 2006 IP