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Scammed by someone in China

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Devana, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. #1
    Well, our company has been scammed. It's not a whole lot of money, but enough to make our accounting dep. more than angry. It's approximately $2,500 USD and the "company" in China who scammed us has now almost gone under ground. They are still active, but changed their contact information and product information.

    Is there any way to make legal action against them?
     
    Devana, Feb 9, 2010 IP
  2. fathom

    fathom Well-Known Member

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    #2
    How did you pay?

    If CC - do a chargeback - product/service not delivered

    If PayPal - put in a dispute - product/service not delivered

    I'm sure others will have additional alternatives but if cash, check, money order, wire transfer etc. you're only recourse is hiring an attorney in China to go after them there.

    It could be a tax writeoff if nothing else and chalking it up to lessons learned... is still invaluable learning.
     
    fathom, Feb 9, 2010 IP
  3. Devana

    Devana Well-Known Member

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    We paid via Western Union and bank wire.

    Yes, a lesson well learnt, but still...
     
    Devana, Feb 9, 2010 IP
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    Colbyt Notable Member

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    Sorry. I think that falls under the lesson well learned. If their site is hosted in the US you may be able to cause them some grief but otherwise just pay them back where you can, but flaming and naming them here will only cause you problems with the mods, so don't do it here.
     
    Colbyt, Feb 9, 2010 IP
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #5
    In all honesty, you can try to take legal action against them but that sounds like it would be a horrible business decision.

    The amount lost is only $2500. You would have to pay a lawyer, costs, and that just for a chance to win. But let's assume you win, and that it costs you nothing. Now you have a piece of paper saying that this company owes you money - now what? You still have nothing. Do you think you will be able to collect a judgment against this company even if you win?

    Sounds like a lot more wasted time and money for nothing to me.
     
    browntwn, Feb 9, 2010 IP
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    tempegoreng Member

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    what is scammed about? , good or services? ...$2,500 is big enough. If i be you i will kill him, use anything (kill his site, make his site can't open forever, kill his boss , cheap one use vodoo black magic :) ) .

    I am not sure about "lawyer" here, do you know the man who cheat you?, can you find him?, i am agree with browntwn , you will need more money ,,,huge money.
     
    tempegoreng, Feb 9, 2010 IP
  7. KyleWhitey

    KyleWhitey Peon

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    yeah, kill him for 2500$ then spend the rest of your life in jail

    that'll show him
     
    KyleWhitey, Feb 9, 2010 IP
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    DubDubDubDot Peon

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    #8
    I have heard of bank wires being reversed, but I don't know much about it. You may want to look into that. Although they have probably taken the cash out already.

    Depends if the OP's country would extradite to China. lol
     
    DubDubDubDot, Feb 10, 2010 IP
  9. DoDo Me

    DoDo Me Peon

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    $2500 is far enough to hire someone in China to kill him.

    btw, voodoo black magic is expensive :)
     
    DoDo Me, Feb 12, 2010 IP
  10. tempegoreng

    tempegoreng Member

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    Lol, in my country it's just $100+ for pay voodo black magic , you want me to use it LOL :D
     
    tempegoreng, Feb 13, 2010 IP
  11. Mystique

    Mystique Well-Known Member

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    Worst thing, Haiti was devastated, the only place to find cheap and effective voodoo :D
     
    Mystique, Feb 13, 2010 IP
  12. ShaguM0w56

    ShaguM0w56 Peon

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    sorry to hear that man, hope you well good all
     
    ShaguM0w56, Feb 13, 2010 IP
  13. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    While I understand your frustrations, do keep illegal options off the forum. China legal system is quite different from democratic countries. It will take a lot of understanding to know how it works. Best is to get a local lawyer in China. But frankly speaking, the efforts may cost far more than the $2500.
     
    wisdomtool, Feb 13, 2010 IP
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    etc Well-Known Member

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    can yuo tell us by refering to your blog which company is it so we'll be warned?
     
    etc, Feb 13, 2010 IP
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    superstan Peon

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    some days back I was dealing with a company from china

    they were selling me an electronic product at a very discounted and cheap prices.

    I smelled a rat and I cancelled the deal.

    weeks later I saw reports on the internet about their company scammed many others.....

    OMG !
     
    superstan, Feb 13, 2010 IP
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    Contact their hosting providers (Whois the domain to find the hosting provider) regarding this issue and maybe they could take some action.
     
    Black Beard, Feb 13, 2010 IP
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    hillord Well-Known Member

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    to me , $2500 is alot. try finding someone to kill them over there. lol
     
    hillord, Feb 13, 2010 IP
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    wamh Well-Known Member

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    You can claim the theft as a business loss on your taxes....that will help a little.
     
    wamh, Feb 15, 2010 IP
  19. Devana

    Devana Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all the advices and tips, I don't think we will take a law suit against them, and definetely not kill anyone, but I guess we will claim it as a loss on our taxes.
     
    Devana, Feb 15, 2010 IP
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    rubeena Peon

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    This must be a lesson for all other forum members as well. We need to make sure that all the transactions are made direct bank to bank and not through any other methods.
     
    rubeena, Feb 15, 2010 IP