Saudi woman jailed because she drove her car

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  1. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #21
    Help yourself first..then you can help others.
     
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  2. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #22
    Exactly. Giving the money to the national and leave those Maghrebis where they are. But I'm afraid they will be much more violent then since they have no intention to integrate themselves and to find a bona fide work.
     
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  3. arnold

    arnold Active Member

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    #23

    Locked up for just driving a car??? These people are real nuts. Thank god I'm not born in some stupid islam country.
     
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  4. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #24
    Erm...what are you talking about? Maghrebis? I thought we was talking about Saudi Arabia?

    Again, once you help yourself, you can help others.
     
    IsraeI, Jun 3, 2011 IP
  5. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #25
    You're slipping easy out of context, huh?
    Re-read from the beginning...to see if you can get it...
    Follow the conversation. If it's not working, try again. You can make it.
     
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  6. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #26
    On Huffington Post, they have an article saying that Saudi Arabian women's rights activists are asking Hillary Clinton to speak up on their behalf. There is an open letter to her on Change.org, if anyone wants to sign.
     
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  7. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #27
    Seems like a lot of women are going to jail..hope you guys are happy with that.
     
    IsraeI, Jun 4, 2011 IP
  8. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #28
    Only sick people can be happy with that...That's why it has been reported in the news. I'm already happy she got out of jail, a place she shouldn't be because of driving a car.
     
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  9. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #29
    What I mean is that you encouraging those women to go out and demand that they should be able to drive will eventually cause them to go to jail, so I hope you happy with that.
     
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  10. Wulkanen

    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Seems like you're afraid of change.
     
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  11. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #31
    Seems like I don't want women to go to jail...but you do.
     
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    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    #32
    Seems like you don't want women to drive a car either.
    Someone got to be the first, but according to you, the women should just sit back
    and accept that they are not allowed to drive.

    I don't want people to go to jail for things like this, so stop with the bullsh*t accusations.
    Doing nothing is not the answer to this problem, even a child can understand that.
     
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  13. BeirutMarketing

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    #33
    Own welfare and safety? Huh? Can you please elaborate what you mean by that?

    If by "safety" you mean keeping them safe from traffic accidents, then that's not the brightest idea. Women can still ride as passengers in cars and if the car hits a wall at 150 km/h... well guess what, it won't make much of a difference whether you are in the drivers or the passengers seat.

    While there are plenty of jokes going around about bad women driving skills, as a whole they are safer then men in that they are less likely to drive at excessive speeds or to maneuver aggressively. Which is what explains the fact that auto insurance rates are lower for women than men in most cases.

    If you are referring to them being attacked while on the road, this is also quite unlikely. If you want to rob someone, it is much easier to do it to a pedestrian than someone that is in a vehicle. Besides, I though Saudi Arabia was a very peaceful country, where all men are sweet angels and where no one would dare rob a woman? No?

    Women in the US are "powerless"? I hope this is sarcasm and you don't really think that way. Women in the US are actually not "powerless" at all, in a sense that they are not taught that all they are good for is obeying what men order them to do. Try beating or abducting a woman in the US... but don't be surprised if she fights back and you end up on the ground with a few holes in your head.

    Yes, there are crimes against women in the US. The difference is there are laws in place and the authorities will prosecute anyone who attacks a woman. This is in stark contrast to Saudi Arabia, where a woman who gets raped can get punished for this (rather than the rapist), where a man who commits a "honor killing" walks away with a very light punishment (or sometimes is not punished at all) and where there are very little, if any, places to help women who are victims of violence or abuse.
     
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  14. IsraeI

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    #34
    That's something you need to talk to the Saudi government about, not with me.

    I respect their opinion, and don't want to have influence in how they should run their country.
     
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  15. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #35
    Yes, I will be encouraging them to be free, to drive freely, to go to any bank freely, in short, to live freely...I'm for freedom to everyone.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #36
    Unless they as a country decide to be allies with the US, hold down the price of oil, negotiate the release of US CIA contractors held in Pakistan, support a free and independent state of Israel, etc etc etc.

    Be honest IsraeI, you only respect the opinion of the leadership of KSA if they are beating a woman or something along those lines.
     
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    #37
    given the state of the chiks in saudi arabia, jail would be a better place.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
     
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  18. IsraeI

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    #38
    That will not happen..instead they will go to jail .. because of YOU.
     
    IsraeI, Jun 7, 2011 IP
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    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    #39
    No, they will go in jail because of people like you.

    Codythebest wants to end the stupidity and let them drive if they want.

    You want to keep the stupidity and keep on jailing them if they drive.
     
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  20. IsraeI

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    #40
    I know it's what he "wants", it's the desired outcome .. but that is not something that will happen, instead they will go to jail, and once again I hope you happy.
     
    IsraeI, Jun 7, 2011 IP