Russian tanks rolling into Georgian breakaway

Listen, Im living 3 hours drive from this so called "president" and you are sitting on the other end of the globe telling me what to say and not? Report what you want and watch your back now.

 

If you think you love your motherland,please do not say filthy language.Otherwise,maybe someone here will dislike Russians.I don't think is clever to say filthy language.Of course I am not a Russian.

 

I'm not russian either and Im not ossetian and not georgian (if you ask me) and? Why did you come here if you arent interested in this thread, you didnt even click on them videos. So whats your goal here?

"maybe someone here will dislike Russians" ? If you dont know english you can dislike whoever you like.

 

I dislike people to say filthy language
I don't think it is clever to say filthy language
I hate it.That's all.What I want to do is just to see regular discussions.
Of course,my English is not good,you are so good to say filthy language?

 

Good luck in achieving of "what you want to do" in here.

 

This man Saakashvili stabs from behind. He is responsible for the deaths of many and deserves the description he got.

 

What are you going on about... he called the Georgian president "a nutter"...

that's not filthy language...

 

I remember this - the police behaved like utter animals

 

Please learn the rules here, the language used wasn't even that fucking bad

 

Thanks for expressing your opinions guys. I dont know what is this DP member on about.

I just saw a news programme on major russian TV channel (1) and it seems my conclusions are correct. There is not even one single foreign media company in south ossetia (except one ukraine's). All of them (cnn, bbc, sky) are in georgia and filming only georgia which I find strange. The fightings are held in south ossetia, why not look in there?

 

The population of South Ossetia is approx 70,000 people and approx 25% of the people are Georgians.

It's a hard sell that 40,000 people can break off 3,900 km² of terrority from Georgia and declare an independent nation.

 

Yet I read during last vote, 95% of eligible voters voted 'to be a free country or not' and 99% of them voted to do just that, which would conclude that if 25% are Georgians, some of those 'most' would have voted to become an independent nation.

I believe the numbers above are correct, I'd have to find the article again.

75% would also be over 50,000 people

 

There's no argument that the South Ossetia want to suceede.

But does every ethnic group of 50,000 people have a right to suceede? 3,900 km² is a lot of terrority to break off.

 

It's more than 50,000.

95% voted, 99% voted to succeed.

A bit different story here as well, did Georgia have a right to break off from the Soviet Union in the first place if you're going to do with this train of thought

 

Russia broke of from the Soviet Union and started the collapse.

Georgia was one of the Republics of the Soviet Union as opossed to a small group of people creating a fiefdom.

 

The thing is they don't want to suceede. They want to join Russian Federation....

They found themselves in a new country to which they didn't want to belong.

It was stupid mistake from the western world to insist and make all those little countries based on administrative borders that communist made.

 

To be fair though there there has always been a very strict reluctance to let Western journalists into South Ossetia even during times of peace

 

Oh, we are now will be counting people like chickens, arent we? over 100K - pass, under 100K - no passes issued?

Is that an excuse for attacking from the back? The next day after announcing ceasefire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWlEejl5SsI

source ? so the UN approved russian peacekeepers in there, but the foreign media cannot get in? Maybe they dont want to be under fire? There are many russian reporters are in hospital now, well, at least 2 channels reported that their own tv reporters are injured. 2 of them I saw live on TV under fire and running.

 

It seems like it - look at the former Yugoslavia.

We have a lot of semi-autonomous regions in Britain - the Channel Islands and Isle of Mann are the closest at hand, but also a number of small territories all over the world.

These regions are too small to have a healthy independent local democracy as their limitations breed nepotism and a closed culture.

As soon as criticism from within comes they close ranks effectively barring that person(s) from employment and other essential opportunities. These people often just have to pack up and leave.

But, in the case of South Ossetia isn't it the case that they don't want independence but want to be apart of the Russian Federation?

There's interesting stuff about South Ossetia on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ossetia

During the Soviet Union period they had their own region called South Ossetian Autonomous Oblast and they have their own Ossetian language... is this similar to Russian?

 

Actually, I could wrong about that... I may be confusing it with the other autonomous region in Georgia... or somewhere not too far away...