Rush hour blast strikes busy market - TURKEY

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Thanks oddyseus, i appreciate.

@ 8^): As you see, this is a terror issue which targets civillians, i do not think any history would justify murdering them. Besides, Kurdish population in Turkey is estimated 15% of the whole population whereas the only seperatist political party does not receive more than 3% vote in the elections, which simply shows they are not even welcome by Kurdish people either.

However, any attempt to assert political or cultural rights based on Kurdish identity is looked upon as treason and as a threat to the very foundations of the Turkish state
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Democracy, human rights and EU application process, these are oftenly abused by terrorists under seperatist purposes when they fail on the field, most of the demand coming from the seperatist group has deeper roots not just naive. Kurds have been provoked in the past upon old Turkish state and now another form of the provokation is going on by the same nations and those %3 percent is all they can manage, and suiciding on public, killing innocent people including little children, even killing tourists visiting Turkey to violate Turkish tourism and so on, that's how "heroic" they are.

About the schoolbooks thingy; yes Turkish is the official language and therefore the education is in Turkish language. On the other hand, people are allowed to speak&communicate in other languages, choose their names even have radio & TV broadcasts in their language. There are some precautions which could be considered a bit too much, but the reason for those is the seperatist group itself. Such as; islamist extremist cause countries develop harsh precautions towards their belief which harm not only them but also decent Muslims, and seperatists do the very same harm to people they "so-called" represent (remember %3, not %15)

And if you are Irani, you probably know the seperatists claim western Iran as well, point guns to you and terrorize your people too. Real question is; who supports them, who supports terror in the region, who benefits the instability using the clichÃ© pretext "human rights" for terror.. I guess everybody knows, at least those who should know do.

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And if you are Irani, you probably know the seperatists claim western Iran as well, point guns to you and terrorize your people too. Real question is; who supports them, who supports terror in the region, who benefits the instability using the clichÃ© pretext "human rights" for terror.. I guess everybody knows, at least those who should know do.
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Iran is diffrent, the kurds there are peacefull, its in the east the problem is. baluchs, tere are many baluchistan seperatist. I guess its the same as turkey the problem is in the east not west.

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Iran is diffrent, the kurds there are peacefull.
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It seems you definitely like to talk about things that you know nothing about. Kurds fought against Shah previously and they started to fight against Islamic Republic almost from day one.

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It seems you definitely like to talk about things that you know nothing about. Kurds fought against Shah previously and they started to fight against Islamic Republic almost from day one.
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You dont seem to know shit either, the kurds fought a short while during the revolution. And they have been against the islamic republic as all Iranians.

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You dont seem to know shit either, the kurds fought a short while during the revolution. And they have been against the islamic republic as all Iranians.
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It is interesting that the history agrees with me and proves once again that you are just simply ignorant about your supposed country history. Why do you have this desire to post about subjects that you know nothing about?

Kurds in Modern Iran

Simko Revolts Against Reza Shah
Weakness of the Persian government during World War I, encouraged some Kurdish chiefs to take advantage of the chaotic situation. Ismael Agha (also known as Simko) chief of the Shikak tribe, established his authority in the area west of Lake Urmia from 1918 to 1922. Jaafar Sultan of Hewraman region also took control of the region between Marivan and north of Halabja and remained independent until 1925. In 1922, Reza Khan (who later became the first Pahlavi monarch), took action against Kurdish leaders. Simko was forced to abandon his region in Fall 1922, and spent eight years in hiding. When the Iranian government persuaded him to submit, he was ambushed and killed around Ushno (Oshnaviyeh) in 1930. After this, Reza Shah pursued a crude but effective policy against the Kurds. Hundreds of Kurdish chiefs were deported and forced into exile. Their lands were also confiscated by the government [21][22].

World War II
When Allied troops entered Iran in September 1941, the Persian Army was quickly dissolved and their ammunition was seized by the Kurds. Sons of Kurdish chiefs seized the opportunity and escaped from their exile in Tehran. A Kurdish chief from Baneh, named Hama Rashid took control of Sardasht, Baneh and Mariwan in western Iran. He was finally driven out of the region by the Persian Army in the Fall of 1944 [23].

Republic of Kurdistan in Mahabad

Although Iran had declared its neutrality in the Second World War, it was occupied by Allied forces. With support from the Soviet Union, a Kurdish state was created in the city of Mahabad in 1946 by the Kurdish Movement Komeley Jiyanewey Kurd under the leadership of Qazi Muhammad. Since the minuscule entity extended no further than the small cities of Mahabad, Bukan, Naqada, and Oshnaviyeh in Iran, not even all of Iranian Kurdistan supported the experiment, let alone the Kurds in other states [24]. The Republic of Mahabad, as it is often called, lasted less than a year, as the end of the war and the withdrawal of the occupying Soviet forces allowed the central government to defeat the separatists and return Kurdistan to Iran.

The Islamic Revolution and The Kurds

Ethnic groups in IranAnother wave of nationalism engulfed eastern Kurdistan after the fall of the Pahlavi Dynasty in the winter of 1979, and as a result Ayatollah Khomeini, the new religious leader of Iran, declared a jihad (holy war) against Kurds[25]. The crisis deepened after Kurds were denied seats in the assembly of experts gathering in 1979, which were responsible for writing the new constitution. Ayatollah Khomeini prevented Dr. Ghassemlou, the elected representative of the region to participate in the assembly of expertsâ€™ first meeting [26]. Kurds were therefore deprived of their political rights under the new Iranian constitution, since the majority of them belonged to the Sunni branch of Islam. In the spring of 1980, government forces under the command of President Abolhassan Banisadr conquered most of the Kurdish cities through a huge military campaign, sending in mechanized military divisions to Kurdish cities including Mahabad, Sinne, Pawe, and Marivan [27].

Kurdish political organizations were enthusiastic supporters of the revolution against the Shah, which brought Ayatollah Khomeini to power in 1979. The Shah had shown himself to be no friend of Kurdish aspirations for greater autonomy and a loosening of Tehran's control over their affairs. From the early days of the revolution, relations between the central government and Kurdish organizations have been fraught with difficulties. The Kurds, with their different language and traditions and their cross-border alliances, were seen as vulnerable to exploitation by foreign powers who wished to destabilize the young republic. Sunni Kurds, unlike the overwhelming majority of their countrymen, abstained from voting to endorse the creation of an Islamic republic in April 1979. That referendum institutionalized Shia primacy and made no provision for regional autonomy. As early as 1979 armed conflict broke out between armed Kurdish factions and the Iranian government's security forces. The Kurdish forces included primarily the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan (KDPI) and the leftist Komala (Revolutionary Organization of Kurdish Toilers)[28]. In a speech, Ayatollah Khomeini called the concept of ethnic minority contrary to Islamic doctrines. He also accused those who do not wish Muslim countries to be united in creating the issue of nationalism among minorities. His views were shared by many in the clerical leadership [29].

The new leadership had little patience for Kurdish demands and opted for crushing unrest through military means. On August 17th 1979, Ayatollah Khomeini declared holy war against the Kurds. Entire villages and towns were destroyed to force Kurds into submission [30]. Ayatollah Khalkhali, sentenced thousands of men to execution after summary trials without regard for the rights of the accused. The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps fought to reestablish government control in the Kurdish regions. As a result more than 10,000 Kurds were killed [31].

Half of the Kurdish population lives under the administration of the West Azarbaijan province, in which minorities of Azaris and Persians (mainly Shiites) are claimed to have held a monopoly on important posts for the last 60 years[citation needed]. It is also claimed in a UNHRC report from 2002 that Kurds also suffer discrimination in the Iranian legal system, in which Sunnis (which includes most of the Kurds) are barred from standing as candidates for important posts such as the Presidency [32].
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Kurdistan

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