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Ron Paul surpasses $8 Million in donations!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guru-seo, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #41
    so then how did it get there..

    where do you think these numbers came from, the campaign made it up? they came out and openly said they had nothing to do with it.
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #42
    What can I say... some people think the earth is flat... others think we never went to the moon. You think the Ron Paul donations are a hoax. Keeps life interesting:D
     
    visio, Nov 13, 2007 IP
  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #43
    Ah, yes, I think the numbers are false...

    I don't think they are a hoax.. More of a white lie meant to help build hype...
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Haha that is very funny. You obviously haven't anything to back such a statement up... on the contrary some simple google searches would show you how much real support Ron has on the web... 4 mil in one day is nothing compared to what some of these guys actually make... really it is not that hard to see how it happened and as nate said I believe the figures have been officially confirmed... if they were incorrect they wouldn't have been confirmed cause the gov has no reason to back him:rolleyes:

    The reason for the questioning is cause this guy has very few points you can question... if your a honest, american or someone who believes in what our country was founded on it is hard to question his beliefs. Sure there are points people disagree on but unlike the other candidates such as clinton who hide what they think he is all out, you know where he stands. How do you counter such a campaign? By spreading rumors...
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #45
    The only proof in the RP dollar figures claims are the claims themselves... It's hard to back up a statement to a statement that was not backed up to begin with.
     
    Mia, Nov 13, 2007 IP
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #46
    so what you are really saying is that you think this kind of fund rasing requires large number of people to support the campaign and you do not think ron paul has this kind of support.
    now are you willing to concede that if he has raised this money then he has a substantialy larger support that you give him credit for
     
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  7. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #47
    Whats ever harder to backup is silly claims like this which have no foundation.
    There is no reason to not believe they are accurate, if there was it would have hit the news by now. Your theory is based on the believe that he couldn't have garnished so much funds in such a short period of time... no facts!:)
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #48

    No, what I am saying is that anyone can make up any number they want and say that is what they got... Whether it is true or not, is really anyone's guess....



    Ah no, I have yet to see anyone show concrete evidence of anything other than a "number", an estimate.... He could say he had raised 500 million, and people might still believe it... Since there is no proof of the dollar amount outside of a "claim" made by the campaign, I am free to come to my own conclusion...

    It seems quite illogical that someone who has raised (claims to have raised) 8 million dollars over 6+ months, was able to raise 5 million of that in just one day.. Would it not stand to reason that he should have raised a lot more by now?
     
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  9. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #49
    9/11 very well couldn't have happened because God Himself never proved that it did. So i can where you're coming from.
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #50

    I can tell your definitely not a marketing pro... if you were you would understand there is nothing illogical about it. I have done it myself, when I spend a day with massive promotion of a product I can make a couple months or more income in a matter of a day or so.

    Seeing the amount of people backing him on the internet I don't see how 4 mil in one day is really all that spectacular. It seems obvious to me that true supporters would spend atleast $100 average which easily accounts for all the money.
     
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    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    #51
    Don't argue with him, Mia and I had this discussion a few days ago. I said the numbers are publicly available on his site, as is complete donor information that's updated in real-time, plus official FEC reports are consistent with publicly advertised numbers. Mia still thinks the numbers are false, but unfortunately until such a time if/when the FEC decides to audit Dr. Paul's numbers, he'll never even have a chance to be proven correct. Never mind that I sincerely doubt they are doctored at all. It's a lost cause, let him ramble about them being fake with no justification, until he gets some evidence on his side it's just hearsay.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #52
    you can't even be honest with yourself
    do you think these numbers are correct or not
    if you think these numbers are not correct then on what assumptions are you basing this conclusion
    and if it is proven that he has raised this money then do you accept that your assumption was not correct
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #53
    I don't know if the numbers are correct or not, that is the point. I'm relying purely on what someone is saying, not what documented evidence supports.

    Get it now?
     
    Mia, Nov 13, 2007 IP
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #54
    The XML datafeed to the flash widget on his site displays donor names and addresses.

    That is how Ron Paul Graphs came about.
    http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com

    and this one too

    http://paulcash.slact.net/


    If someone was so inclined, they could grab the Dec. 16th feed and audit the #s.

    This is the first fully transparent political fund raising campaign.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #55
    Any independent statistics there?
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #56
    You hit on the head! Since when have we had a campaign this transparent... maybe that is why it is being questioned, it is too good to be true, it has never happened like this before. The web has and will continue to play a MAJOR role in this election and for that very reason Ron Paul has a good chance of winning...
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #57
    Why not you? Grab the feed and validate the donations that come in.

    Horse, meet water. Now drink.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #58
    what we need are ron paul sites made and links to the donations pages. This is the first time im gonna vote and im going Ron Paul all the way. Convincing me to vote is like convincing fish not to like water, but hey, what can I say, miracles happen lol. Better yet lets make a websites with this domain how about www.convincemiatovoteforronpaul.com ???
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #59
    Make sure you register Republican and vote in your state's primary election. First the nomination, later the general election. You can also join a MeetUp group at http://www.ronpaul.meetup.com/

    There are loads of sites in the Ron Paul network. Off the top of my head...

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com

    http://www.dailypaul.com

    http://www.ronpaulnation.com

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/

    http://www.ronpauldonors.com

    http://www.ronpaulaudio.com

    http://www.ronpaullibrary.com

    http://www.paulunteer.com

    http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com

    http://www.ronpaulradio.com

    Load of these sites...
     
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    Waffleguy Well-Known Member

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    #60
    Ron Paul is a man of the people and he is the last hope America has.
     
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