Ron Paul On Babies, Prostitution, Marijuana and Chocolate Chip Cookies

I don't condone pot or prostitution but the two issues always bugged me. Its a waste of time to imprison people for them and they are just two obvious examples of how superior the Libertarian viewpoint is in my view.

Ron Paul:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/05/do_tell_ron_paul_on_babies_pro.html

I was once asked why I don't participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I'll be there.

~Mother Theresa (1910-1997) ~

 

Legalizing prostitution hasn't helped elsewhere:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070112072640.axqq8vpe&show_article=1

legalizing prostitution in amsterdam has increased crime, mob presence, money laundering, human traficking, etc. - and they are closing down like 1/3 of the red light district in an attempt to alleviate the issue.

 

thats like saying because the mob is involved in garbage collecting the answer is ban garbage trucks

 

if trash cans were illegal and the crime rate was high because people used them; then you legalized trash cans to reduce crime; but it didn't work...then you might have a point.

if the point to legalizing prostitution is to reduce crime (not only prostitution but its related crimes), it clearly doesnt work. isn't this direct evidence in that regard?

 

its direct evidence that cash businesses that lack transparency in their accounting attract criminals seeking to launder money

and from the article

That banks unwillingness to work with honest people in the sex trade pushes the industry to be involved with criminal kingpins

 

so you think this is the banks' fault then, not that prostitution attracts drug trade, the mob, human traficking, etc. Come on ferret.

 

i have to agree with you.
i remember a while back i read an article about israel having a problem with traficking of russian women and white slavery for a while as a result of prostitution being legal in israel

 

I don't think its the bank fault, its the mobs fault for pushing in there, but thats what they do, measures need to be taken to get them out, and if the banks can help they should, as long it financially feasible

 

Of course its a problem. Ignored, for some reason, by people who want it legalized:

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/38790.htm

 

yeah and it happens weather prostitution is legal or not

you know illegal immigration seems to have links to housekeeping, so we should make housekeeping illegal

 

There is some confusion about RP's position on prostitution.

He's saying that it is not the responsibility of the Federal Government to legalize or criminalize it. That is the responsibility of the states.

It's pretty consistent with his platform of small federal government, and allowing the states to administer what is acceptable.

People who have gotten cozy with the fed deciding everything for them, is why Congress is bogged down debating things that are state's rights. Our education system has failed miserably when people do not understand the legal and philosophical foundation of the Republic.

 

housekeeping doesn't lead to illegal immigration. illegal immigration is caused by illegal immigration. prostitution does lead to crime. this is clearly shown in this situation where it is legalized and the secondary crimes followed.

face it, prostitution is little more than slavery for the women who are, in many cases, forced into the lifestyle because of traficking, drugs, etc.

glad you agree that legalizing it won't improve the crime rates of the associated activities.

that's the way it is now, I believe. Nevada has legalized it in some areas. I don't believe its a federal matter unless it crosses state lines with secondary activities - traficking, drugs, etc.

 

Right, it just seems that many voters are morons when they are concerned with State's Rights, or something that is a matter for Congress, and instead look to the President for policy.

I find that really irritating.

 

So RP has what, 1% of those polled (depends on the poll, we all know they are worthless, but still...)??? RP is nothing more than a name, he has no platform, no support (except a few rogue idiots on this forum), and no chance to win.

 

4% in the latest poll, putting him close to Romney, and tying him with Huckabee, the choice of the supposed "largest voting block in America" (Values Voters). Never mind that at this point in the race historically, polls show name recognition more than anything. Also, there are numerous examples of candidates who were polling similarly to Ron Paul who went on to win their party's nomination, and in some cases, the presidency. I didn't see you vote in my thread about Republican candidates, so I can't compare his chances to whoever your favorite candidate is, but to say he's got no chance is silly.

 

no it shows any business where there is chance for someone criminal to profit draws criminals. Housekeeping in itself is not a crime but apparently a lot of illegal people do it, which is a crime

What percentage of housekeepers in Southern California are illegal immigrants?

illegal prostitution more so then legal prostitution, do you think in Nevada it is slavery? When prostitution is illegal the woman are at the mercy of pimps etc involved , if its legal and someone tries to abuse or rob them they can call the police

 

I think you need to read my Ron Paul Fund Raising thread. He's running a more effective campaign than Romney, McCain, basically everyone except Giuliani.

As far as his platform, are you even aware of his positions on Foreign Policy, Taxation, Immigration etc? Of all the Republican candidates, Paul might have the most clear, prominent and consistent platform of the group!

All of that information is available on his website, and I have posted it several times here. If you would like, I can post it again for your reading pleasure.

 

I'm kinda surprised that no one has brought up RP's controversial love of chocolate cookies, and his unsuitability to be our next President based upon his lack of skill at baking.

 

this is clearly not the case in amsterdam, right? Where it's legal. Yet the crime rate is a major reason why they are shutting down some of the businesses. I think you are confusing cause and effect here. Illegality doesn't seem to be the cause. So, you'd have to to switch to the activity, right? It seems to attract the criminal element. It's hard to make a case otherwise.

Actually, the people hiring the illegals are the criminals; as well as the illegals who are doing the job are here through illegal means.

If you stop illegal immigration (being an illegal being the initial crime) you stop the illegal hiring of illegals. If you stop the criminalzing of prostitution (prostitution being the initial crime) you do not stop the secondary activities - human traficking, drug use, etc.

The real stamp on this would be if crime rates go down in the red light district after they are converted into apartments or real businesses or whatever. Crime rate goes down, then you clearly have a cause. Crime rate doesn't, then you don't. I'd suspect the crime rate will drop. Do you believe otherwise?

 

The crime went from pimps extorting, strong arming prostitutes for their money to organized crime extorting and forcing brothel owners to launder money. So technically you went form violent sexual crimes to white collar crime.

The police need to fix it, and they should be able to the same way we have eliminated a lot of organized crime from labor unions in the US

did you read the article?, the crime they talking about is money laundering not street or visible crime. Its crime that's done by accountants when they put illegal cash on the books as income.