Ron Paul for President - Eyes of the Military

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  2. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    Yup, I also saw it today... Mike Huckabee vs Ron Paul

    Ron Paul is the right choice...
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    Beautiful beautiful beautiful. This is one of our soldiers talking about it.
    Kbr stock doubling while their people sit in their offices getting paid over 100k a year while our soldiers are dieing outside the bases. He also says that there is a genocide in sudan, and yet we havent sent any soldiers there. 70% of the american people being against the war . How many more soldiers must die for thsi lie of a war to keep going, and i cant believe that posters like gtech still try to tell us that there were terrorists in iraq and that is why we took saddam out and destroyed iraq and that is why thousands of our soldiers have died.

    Our soldiers have spoken up, our job is to defend our soldiers against being used as pawns for the elitists and their war. This was never the war of the american people cause the american people never supported this war in the first place. There is now a disconnect between the american and people and our government and whats worse is the media is also trying to hide it
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Saw it and the thread on the ron paul forums :) Was wondering how long it would take to make it's rounds over here.
     
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    And yet I am anxious to know your thoughts on it.
     
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    That's a powerful video. People need to remember these are real people fighting and dying for no good reason. I'm tired of people talking about how the "surge" is "working." When a war is wrong it's never working. This shouldn't be about military strategy. It's like the people who still talk about how our strategy in Vietnam was wrong. That's insane to me. If a war is wrong, it's wrong. Even if you "win."
     
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    I saw the debate a while ago. It's so surreal. All Huckabee does is pander and talk about honor and winning and how great America is. He didn't say anything with substance and when analyzed what he said didn't even make sense. Yet everyone still claps. America is seriously a screwed up country.

    I love how Ron Paul hops in to the debate and actually uses facts instead of patriotic dribble and he gets less claps.

    America is hopeless and deserves what it gets.
     
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    Realm Well-Known Member

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    He's afraid to let his thoughts out...since he knows he's wrong in many ways;)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Why? Because you give respect (finally) to someone in the military, simply because they like Ron Paul?

    That soldier, above you, me, or anyone else, deserves to have his vote heard. There's no way to know if he really is a soldier, though he does have a "partial" uniform on.

    It's also a good video, in that it shows Huckabee completely owning Ron Paul. It also shows Ron Paul using his favorite term, neocon (code word for Jews), and it shows the applause when Ron Paul was corrected that we are "one America."

    That soldier, should also be reminded, that when a soldier in uniform showed up to a daily kos convention a few years ago, in uniform, to support Bush, liberals (like those here, pretending to be republicans) pounced on him for making a political statement in uniform.

    It's a good propaganda piece for you. You should cherish it, because if he really is a soldier (not a Jesse MacBeth), then you and ron paul supporters finally have a soldier you can appreciate.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Is this the kind of soldier that win's muslim appreciation, Realm? ;)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    AGS, behind the times, as usual. Kiss up, AGS!
     
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    Nope. I've given props to brave men like Chuck Hagel and Duncan Hunter in the past. Of course, they might like Ron Paul too, but I can neither confirm nor deny that.

    He's a Sergeant E-5 and released his name.

    Well it shows Huckabee pandering to Patriotic sentiment, and the the soldier expressing his outrage that Huckabee is so out of touch with the reality for the troops.

    Before you start preaching about "we are one America", you might want to consider your constant smears against Libertarian Americans, Arab Americans, Muslim Americans, and Liberal Americans. Because on this forum, you seem to be the champion of a divided America.
    I'm tired of reminding you, that you voted for Clinton, and then became a war time Republican. That's pretty much the definition of a neocon. A Neo-Conservative. Someone who defects from the left, to infiltrate the right.

    I say this, because you have no position on limited government, no position on Constitutional authority, and no position on reduced government spending, which are all pillars of conservatism, not only in this country, but around the world.

    So before you call out liberals (in your typical "divided America" rhetoric), I think you need to take a look in the mirror, and ask yourself how committed you are to the principles of Robert Taft (Mr. Republican) and Barry Goldwater (Mr. Conservative).

    So, according to you, the soldier deserves to be heard but when he speaks it's propaganda. More hypocrisy from the master I suppose. No surprise here.
     
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    Not that you would care about what an actual american ground soldier would think:D, but that soldier has guts and isnt afraid of speaking the truth that you seem to always find a way to bend and stretch every which way but loose.

    Has anyone ever asked gtech straight out if he even believes in the constitution?
     
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    Gtech constantly attacks anyone who mentions the Constitution. My impression is that he is totally ignorant of it's meaning or contents.
     
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    Lol he knows about giving aid and comfort to the enemy and will cite it as a reason anyone speaking ill of this war should be jailed/hanged. But yea, as far as the bill of rights, preamble, constitutional amendments, declaration of war, I think he missed all those parts in history class.

    Good analysis of his former liberal roots. Sure is easy to see his neo-con persona (neo-con but not Jewish, oh my) when you break it down like that. You are right, he tells us we are not conservatives, but he doesn't have a stance on many of the most basic, long-standing conservative principles.
     
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    It was a good joke though eh GTech.

    A picture says a thousand words. :D
     
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    You took the words right out of my mouth (errr...off my keyboard) :D
     
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    Could be a Fraud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Macbeth
    This "Veteran" had the cheek to claim he had:
    When in reality
     
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    He 'could be' then again all 'veterans' could be.

    I have spoken to many who served in Iraq who are not for the war. They do their duty, they do the mission and want to win, but they are not 'for the war' from those who I have talked to.

    Just like in any group of people, some will be for it, some against. The military trully is next to impossible to get an actual reading of what they think, especially while active duty.
     
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