Ron Paul Discusses Why the Federal Reserve is Destroying the US Economy

What I hate is dumbasses saying that I am a 9/11 nut because I question the official 9/11 fairytale GTech. You should know by now that with all the lies your lover and his corrupt administration have told us any right thinking person should not always believe everything that they are told.

After all, ask yourself who benefited from 9/11?

Don't go quoting me any Perry Colon nonsense here either.

 

A Letter of Marque is an authorization for mercenaries to act as agents of the government. It would have been a preferable way to pursuing Bin Laden (cheaper in lives and money), and might likely have been (based on historical use of Letters of Marque) more effective than invading one country after another.

Of course, Cowboy George thinks we will just invade Afghanistan, then Iraq, maybe Iran, while sizing up Syria and Pakistan. Americans die, the war devalues our money and no resolution is ever reached. But for a neanderthal throwback such as yourself (Yipee Ki Yay), this is a dream scenario, a return to a life of spaghetti westerns and the wild wild west.

I'm not sure if you get bored of being intelligent, or the flashes of intelligence you display are unsustainable.

 

He can usually copy and paste his way out of any difficult situation.

 

You don't bring any strong evidence to the table Gtech. You just say that "any date can be put on a video" and then you talk about why the video didn't appear in August of 2001.

You're looking at the trees while I'm looking at the forest. If you look at a picture of Jones today, and compare it to the footage in that video, common sense tell you that the footage from the video is obviously from six years ago.

Besides that, it is common sense that the government is corrupt. You're gullible to believe that the mainstream new is honest. All they talk about is celebrities and other BS that doesn't matter in the long run.

No one is perfect, but I've learned real history from Jones, stuff I never learned in a college or classroom textbook. Black men WERE intentionally infected with syphilis, and all the other conspiracies I talked about happened. When you read in the history books about the government killing blacks by infecting them with syphilis, it doesn't become hard to believe that the government would be trying to kill people today.

Do you even stop and think about the history of this country. Everybody wants to act like America is an angel, when our history is so stained with blood its not even funny. GENOCIDE is a part of our history. Millions of native Americans died because of the corrupt practices of the U.S. government. The supreme court once ruled that "Blacks weren't human."

Yet you think it is so hard to believe that the government would lie, stage terror attacks, or do harmful things to out food.......even though its elite write books saying that exactly what they will do. History, not just American history, but all of history is full of bloodshed and misery. Las century, over 200 million people died because of GOVERNMENT. Khmer Rouge, Mao, Hitler, Stalin, they all killed millions. But you seem to think government is good.

You guys want to act like the government is angelic, and that rich and powerful people have no reason to harm us, when all of history shows you to be dead wrong. For thousands of years slavery has been the norm, and it even existed in this country no more than 150 years ago. Yet there is nothing to be worried about.

There is nothing to worry about even though they write books saying they wanted to kill us. And for the record, Margaret Sanger was a racist eugenics advocate that talked about killing certain "segments of the population."

 

I'm not interested in provoking him. The facts are what they are, no matter what blogs he quotes, or who he chooses to attack.

If Ron Paul said that he thought it was an inside job, then he said it. The scary thing, is that there may be a truth behind it. A lot of that 9-11 report, particularly the juicy portions about US/Saudi relations were blacked out.

I'm not sure if the Nixon gang does this to be argumentative, or they in some way feel that they are part of the structure (knowingly or unknowingly) and feel obliged to defend it.

I see a trail of guys who either ape GTech or follow him around. Instead of worrying that Alex Jones is a Ron Paul fan, perhaps GTech should focus (focus now) on the company he keeps, and the ignorance they perpetuate.

 

The news in the US in my opinion is just another form of entertainment at this point.

It just amazes me that so many people think that the politicians have the interest of the common people in mind. When big money influences the decisions of those entrusted to serve the people you can be sure that big money is served first and the people last.

 

What I hate are dumbasses who pretend that they question 9/11, but in reality, never ask questions. Instead, make repeated allegations of which have been addressed and proven wrong time and again.

What I hate, is the dumbass who pretends to be questioning, when in fact he is giving aid and comfort to terrorists. I hate when this dumbass repeats the same lies, over and over again. I hate when this dumbass is proven wrong, that he simply runs and hides and will not address facts or questions.

I hate the dumbass who openly defends the very terrorist group involved with said plot and gives them aid and comfort.

Now... you know what I hate...dumbass

 

Divide and conquer works well. When there is actually something to divide and conquer

You do realize the same could be said of you, ags, WDHT (oh boy, on this one!), gworld, tesla, and countless others.

We could, of course, step beyond those silly games. I'm willing. Are you?

 

I agree. Every time I turn on the tv, I have to hear about Lindsay Lohan in Rehab, Paris Hilton going to jail, or some other celeb nonsense that really means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Then I have to go online to find out that the U.S. backed an invasion of Somalia by Ethiopia, putting the same warlords back in power that killed our troops in 1993. Wow, our mainstream media is really informed.

A lot of people born in this country don't realize how fortunate they are. They've never went a day without eating, don't know what its like to be poor or barely have running water.

A lot of Americans live in a fantasy world. Especially the upper and middle class. If you talk to most poor Americans, it is common sense that the government is corrupt and greedy. A lot of Black people especially know this, because after all, they have been enslaved, and then you have this thing about the syphilis. It doesn't take much for them to see that the government is pretty corrupt.

People who live outside the U.S. also have a keen awareness of what is going on. A lot of people in the Middle East no more about American history than Americans, and they are aware first hand of our corruption. Americans need a wake up call, and soon I think they will get it.

I think Ron Paul would be a great president, and he isn't a puppet like the other candidates. He sticks to core Constitutional principles, and overall, I think he would make the world a better place. I hope Gtech and others can see past the corporate control of the other candidates, and vote for someone who speaks the truth.

 

You will find it rare that I post as a "member" of that group or cheer them on. In fact, I cheer you on as much as any of them.

I'm not interested in silly games. The question is, are you?

 

The truth will out GTech, it might be after your lover Bush leaves office, it might be when Hillary has her 8 years in office, it might even be after that when the next scumbag is ruining your country but I feel that the American people will wake up to these utter utter fools sooner or later.

When you have a million Mexicans in your back garden and a massive super highway running through your entire country, your spending your AMEROS as part of the North American Union then we'll see who the dumbass is.

I'll be doing a post tomorrow on the SPP meeting on August 19-21, 2007, Montebello, Quebec that your friendly controlled mainstream media channels will not report on.

 

Gtech, I would also like to say that it appears that you're right on the issue of the "Monsanto Live Aids Virus in corn thing." I looked all over the net, even Jones site, and I could find nothing anywhere which specifically links Monsanto Corn to Live Aids Virus.

And while Jones may have been wrong on this, he is not wrong in saying that there is something rotten about Monsanto overall. They've have had numerous lawsuits, and their product was banned in Greece. This tells me that something is definitely fishy.

Also, as I've said before, I can confirm the other stuff he talks about. Operation Northwoods is real, Operation AJAX is real, Operation Shad is real, and Jones is right about Gates father being involved with Planned Parenthood. Therefore, I still give Alex Jones an A+, because I can research and confirm virtually all of the stuff he talks about, and he isn't entirely wrong about Monsanto.

Just because Einstein and Newton may have made mistakes, this still did not mean they were not good scientists. The same is with Alex Jones. Just because he makes a comment about something on his show that can't be proven, doesn't mean that he is a poor journalist. Instead of looking at one thing, lets look at what he has been right about, and its a lot of stuff.

 

Good, glad we can clear that up. Nope, I enjoyed our discussion today. In fact, it's the only reason I stuck around. Though numb nuts (sorry, AGS) might have people believe I'm here constantly, I have been gone for days on end the past few weeks due to some fairly big projects. So every few days I check in real quick to see which terrorist group AGS is defending on that particular day, leave a few replies and move on.

You don't deserve that. It may get a little heated, but you put forth an effort and a challenge. I can respect that.

Oh, WDHT... I was just kidding above with the (oh boy on this one.) Just seeing if you were paying attention Actually, I read a comment you made to gworld on my behalf a few days ago and wanted to thank you for your comment back to gworld in my regard. First class! Thank you.

 

Stop waffling GT ya loon.

What "big project" was it? A consignment of Dubya Bush Playing cards?

George W Bush duvet covers with interchangeable Cheney motif?

Bill O'Reillys latest book?

You can't fool us GT, you are still here more than any of the other members of the crazy gang. You have to be, because to not do so would undermine your cult status here in the DP P&R forum and you would end up losing many of your groupies.

 

Gtech, you and lorien attack Paul, but can't you both see that the media is after him? Michele Malkin attacks him, Giuliani goes after him, Sean Hannity goes after him. What is it about Ron Paul that makes these people want to attack him?

The answer is that Ron Paul scares them. He scares the establishment. He is not controlled by big financial interests like the other candidates. He was never supposed to get as big as he has, but he has a strong message, a message of freedom and truth. He is reaching everyone, and even liberals are paying attention.

Ron Paul wants to go back to Constitutional principle. The globalists are scared of this, because this means there North American Union plan goes in the toilet. As president Ron Paul and the American people would not tolerate such a plan.

Under Paul, the IRS would be destroyed, and this DEFINITELY scares the globalists. Therefore, the establishment tries at every opportunity to discredit Paul and make him look like a "crazy conspiracy nut."

That should make you guys want to vote for him even more. Ron Paul is the complete opposite of Bush, a REAL conservative who wants to go back to traditional values, the ones that made America strong in the first place. He wants an economy where entrepreneurs like myself can thrive, not an economy where big corps by out governments and push small businesses out of the competition.

Most importantly, Ron Paul SUPPORTS INTERNET FREEDOM, AND NO GOVERNMENT REGULATION OF THE NET. One thing you guys better believe is that the super rich WILL NOT sit back forever and let us make money online, or use the Internet as a vehicle of freedom. The Elite hate the Internet, and it pisses them off that guys like me are able to be self employed and not controlled by them and their stupid companies!

You can be rest assured that any other candidate who gets in office will eventually push for the control and regulation of the Internet. This alone should make everyone, especially on this forum, want to vote for him.

 

I'm not even sure that particular company is involved or not. All I know is what jones supposedly said...that there is aids in the corn. I eat corn once a week or so. I always have. I've also have general physicals every year and blood tests which always confirm I do not have aids.

Does jones actually say something is rotten? Or is he saying there is aids in the corn?

Northwoods. This is pretty much a joke though. If I recall correctly, this is one of the first discussion AGS had here, where he confirmed that facts simply do not matter. I believe that was somewhere around this thread/area:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=1667481&postcount=88

Basically, one person coughed up some stupid idea. No one agreed with it, and in fact, shortly after, the person was fired/removed from the government. Of course, some try to make a bigger deal out of it than that.

Gates...planned parenthood? Who cares? Gates are a rich/wealthy family. Being philanthropists, it's not unreasonable to believe someone one in the family may have made a donation to the group. What's the beef? Is there some mystery conspiracy behind this one?

What I take issue with is predicting 9/11. It simply didn't happen. Jones exists because people stroke his ego. People give him money to do what he does. He's an ego maniac. He thrives on attention. That's what drives him. If we can recognize that, then we can go back to the link I provided where I debunked this myth. He never had anything on his site after 9/11 regarding a prediction. There is absolutely no way, someone with as big an ego as alex jones, who absolutely thrives and lives for "I told ya so," that he wouldn't have that prediction plastered on his site. Think about it. Seriously...think about it. We know he has an ego. Ain't no way in hell wouldn't have had that plastered all over his site, pumping up his ego everywhere, had he really done so.

 

Now you really are scraping the barrel GTech.

Read up on it, declassified documents and there is absolutely no doubt about that.

I usually find you mildly irritating but tonight you are bordering on the lines of insanity with your constant denial of anything that is against your Bill O'Reilly Pocketbook.

I'll leave you to go do some reading.

 

I made the comment not in your defense specifically, but because I don't like to see the service of any man or women that raises their right hand to defend the constitution of the US belittled in anyway. One of the first comments you made to me was to thank me for my service. I thank you for your service as well.

I don't agree with many of your opinions but on some level I can see that you believe what you say is for the good of the US. I disagree with your perspective in many cases as you know. I don't disrespect you as a person or even disrespect your opinions. My opinions of what is in the best interest of this nation are just not the same as yours.

The great thing is that we have the luxury in this country of being able to express those opinions openly.

 

The media? Let's see...the media goes after Romney because he's Morman. If he were muslim, they wouldn't question anything about his religion. The media goes after guilliani, they go after his wife, they go after Fred Thompson's wife, they go after guilliani's wife. Who doesn't the media attack? Well, maybe Hillary and Obama. I'm being a little sarcastic here, but that's not far fetched.

Somewhere, in my media bias archives, I have a study that showed the media was far, far more harsh on Bush, than they were on Kerry in the last election cycle. As if it took a study to see this!

If Paul can't handle the heat, he shouldn't be in the kitchen. The media goes after everyone right now and will continue to do so.

Now, to your question. What is it about Ron Paul that makes these people want to attack him? Nothing more than those I mentioned above.

For me:

1) RP deliberately chose to cater, align himself with, pander to and agree with 9/11 conspiracy nuts and alex jones. As far as I'm concerned, that is why he is sitting at 0% in national polls. This was a mistake. He should have known that this sector of people in the US is an extreme minority and pandering to them, will turn away real Americans. Remember, a few months ago when you were here starting threads about RP, and I pointed this out?

2) He is a third/fourth tier candidate that has accomplished virtually nothing.

3) His "blame America first" positions turn off non-self-loathers.

4) Every time he speaks, he sounds like a battered wife. He sounds weak.

5) Writing strongly worded letters to terrorists when they attack us is not going to satisfy real Americans.

Had he some forethought into these poor qualities, he might could have been a decent second tier candidate at best. If you want to see how second tier candidate gets noticed, he should take a look at Mike Huckabee in the last debate. His performance was resounding and Iowan's really took to what he had to say. Most impressive.

 

I bolded the above specifically. I know this, you've demonstrated this. I'm working on trying to do better in this area myself. I'm normally a combative person in debate.

Still, regardless of motive, I thank you for what you said. Just wanted you to know it didn't go unnoticed.