ringtones...

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by int_josh, Oct 1, 2006.

  1. #1
    I've read shoemoney's post on his blog about ringtones and his claims on how it converts so well... lol
    400 visitors, 0 sales... converts very well :rolleyes:

    anyone else getting very low conversions? I was thinking of dropping them completely, since it's redicilously unprofitable.
     
    int_josh, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  2. EasyMarketer

    EasyMarketer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    695
    Likes Received:
    21
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    110
    #2
    how are you marketing it? let me know and I can probaly help you out :)
     
    EasyMarketer, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  3. Shoemoney

    Shoemoney $

    Messages:
    4,474
    Likes Received:
    588
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    295
    #3
    if you have questions ask specific questions. Its not rockect science.
     
    Shoemoney, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  4. int_josh

    int_josh Peon

    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #4
    PPC and adbrite
    iframing the ringtone provider's landing page

    Well, if I knew why I'm not getting conversions I'd ask questions.
    I'm iframing the affiliate landing page for better conversions, but it doesn't seem to work.

    I went as far as using only keywords that contain "ringtone" in my PPC campaigns (about 2500).

    What can I improve? Should I maybe pre-sell a bit on top of iframed page? Or keeping it simple and clean worked better for you?

    What's your eCPC?

    btw I sent about 1500 visitors now, 5 sales.

    so the eCPC is about 0.05
     
    int_josh, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  5. EasyMarketer

    EasyMarketer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    695
    Likes Received:
    21
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    110
    #5
    mhm, target your ads man, free ringtones is not worth the conversions because you wont get anywhere. If you want to get more conversions make sure the person knows what is going on, dont try and trick them by saying Free Ringtones. Straight up say 10 Bonus Ringtones, then inside of the ad say the price a month and say cancel anytime.

    Dont go for the keyword free ringtone or free ringtones and NEver ringtones.

    Go for like eminem ringtones yung joc ringtones nick lachey ringtones etc.
    Target your ads give the people what they want. Dont have the same ad for all of yours. Say on the top of the ad if you bidding for nick lachey ringtone Say
    Bonus Nick lachey Ringtone then under the ad keep the same thing, about how it cost so much amount a month and cancel anytime.

    If you look for smaller niches, you will pay less a click and higher conversions :)
     
    EasyMarketer, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  6. larysmith711

    larysmith711 Notable Member

    Messages:
    3,374
    Likes Received:
    341
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    215
    #6
    The bottom line with any affiliate marketing you will convert much better when your traffic is targeted. If you are trying to push ringtones and people are looking for myspace layouts... you will convert at a lower rate.

    When you get targeted traffic your EPC can easily be in the .65-1.30 range.
     
    larysmith711, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  7. Shoemoney

    Shoemoney $

    Messages:
    4,474
    Likes Received:
    588
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    295
    #7
    paste your url your sending traffic too ill look at it and offer sugestions

    actually broadmatch of msn for "myspace" was my highest profiting keyword on msn for a looooooooong time.

    the next highest was "gay"
     
    Shoemoney, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  8. larysmith711

    larysmith711 Notable Member

    Messages:
    3,374
    Likes Received:
    341
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    215
    #8
    Everything converts better on MSN.... the volume just sucks. ;)
     
    larysmith711, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  9. Pat Gael

    Pat Gael Banned

    Messages:
    1,331
    Likes Received:
    68
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #9
    I have 2 sites devoted to ringtones, high traffic, 0 sales as well :rolleyes:
     
    Pat Gael, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  10. int_josh

    int_josh Peon

    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #10
    It's just a website that has thumbplay page iframed (essentially a copy of thumbplay affiliate URL).

    What is your source of traffic and how many keywords do you have loaded up?
     
    int_josh, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  11. biziboy

    biziboy Peon

    Messages:
    964
    Likes Received:
    30
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #11
    under the right circumstances, "pre-selling" these convert welll
     
    biziboy, Oct 1, 2006 IP
  12. Shoemoney

    Shoemoney $

    Messages:
    4,474
    Likes Received:
    588
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    295
    #12
    wow that took you a whole 10 minutes to do and your not making millions yet?

    you should probably quit as you said in the first post.
     
    Shoemoney, Oct 1, 2006 IP
    Mong likes this.
  13. int_josh

    int_josh Peon

    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #13
    yeah good one

    are you flexing nuts or trying to provide advice?

    any suggestions on how to presell these?
     
    int_josh, Oct 2, 2006 IP
  14. tdnetworks

    tdnetworks Peon

    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #14
    Well there was some good advice on how to improve your earnings. I've done great with ringtone offers in the past but it is now dying down a lot and everyone knows it. A new year is coming up and I really don't believe the current ringtone offers will dominate for 2007 so I would jump into a different field to get a head start.

    Now you can still make money with ringtones... but just iframing a landing page isn't going to get you anywhere. Create a custom landing page and then go from there - you can't expect to make money by putting in few minutes of work. Research and bid on unique keywords, implement some tracking to see which keywords convert best for you and reed a book about how to effectively do search engine marketing.
     
    tdnetworks, Oct 2, 2006 IP
  15. reapr

    reapr Peon

    Messages:
    1,711
    Likes Received:
    18
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #15
    Darn I knew it all along if I waited another 5 minutes someone would beat me to it ... darn Iframers beat me to the punch everytime.
     
    reapr, Oct 2, 2006 IP
  16. biziboy

    biziboy Peon

    Messages:
    964
    Likes Received:
    30
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #16
    okay... heres the thing.... you need to target it to high school/college audiance, otherwise they wont convert... PPC for ringtone keys is oversaturated.... try myspace markettng....

    another thing
    1. (dont piss off shoemoney...)
    2. Explain the idea on your landing page... ppl are used to seeing the dadamobile /thumplay/whatever banners on popups... using the page in an iframe may be a bad start....

    for example in a myspace campaign i wrote something along the lines..

    "hey guys... check out these awesome shakira ringtones.... lol"
    .
     
    biziboy, Oct 2, 2006 IP
  17. reapr

    reapr Peon

    Messages:
    1,711
    Likes Received:
    18
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #17
    Building your own landing page with cloaked affiliate urls will convert best over the long haul providing you update it on occasion or use a script that inserts unique content periodically. Overall it depends on your own ability to write good ad copy.

    Overall this is Shoemoneys ring and he knows best.
     
    reapr, Oct 2, 2006 IP
  18. Shoemoney

    Shoemoney $

    Messages:
    4,474
    Likes Received:
    588
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    295
    #18
    I like to help those who help themselves... You come in here super vague and want all the answers yet you have just used iframed pages...

    my advice is to test test test
     
    Shoemoney, Oct 2, 2006 IP
  19. int_josh

    int_josh Peon

    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #19
    Well... http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=73129&highlight=frame+their+landing+page

    Actually I researched before I iframed, and I assumed iframes were working well for you.

    Having landing page with "choose your carrier" generated pathetic ROI. Iframed generated some revenue. Now I'm testing some pre-selling points on top of iframed page.

    ===== cut ======
     
    int_josh, Oct 2, 2006 IP
  20. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

    Messages:
    5,695
    Likes Received:
    288
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    280
    #20
    @ Shoemoney I sent you a PM. I don't know you personally, but I'm doing OK and can use some tips to take it to the next level so I was like, f#ck it. Either he ignores me or he helps me :)
     
    GeorgeB., Oct 2, 2006 IP