RichUser caught redhanded trying to sell domains that he does not own!!

I see.

Alert the community to a complete scam artist and you get labelled as untrustworthy - now that's really intelligent.

Why would I pray answer me, would I want to convey a business transaction with you either?

Hmmmmmmmm?

 

Maybe you need to read this thread, although, it's rather highly doubtful that you will of course, for this fact of knowledge gained would be entirely contradictory to your already made up supposition / assumption of me and the responsibility I feel towards others, but it may bide well with you, if you think, what the reasoning may have been behind offering such advice as this out, to new domainers entering the field and getting their feet wet for perhaps the first time in this industry sector.

Hmmmmmmmmm?

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=653783&highlight=inexperienced+domainers

Reposted exactly as it appears there:

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Jan 15th 2008, 4:26 am
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A word of caution to all inexperienced domain buyers
This is for all the relatively inexperienced domain buyers out there, just some sound, good, down to earth advice from an old boy in his 40's who has been involved with the domain industry for quite some time.

It's actually painful to me, to see many of the names that many of you are hand registering, thinking that such name/s are going to earn for you, a considerable amount of money on your initial investment. Sure $9.00 or so isn't a lot of money for one domain, but when you get carried away and register many, of which, nearly all are worth next to nothing, this irks me.

Believe you me, I would love to see nothing more than many of you earning some decent money from your domain names, but the sad truth is, that many of the names that all of you inexperienced guys are registering are worth, pardon my french, dick shit, in other words absolutely zilch.

Think!! Before you buy, exactly, what you are doing. Do you have a plan in mind, for the development of the name that you are about to register? Believe you me, all of those $9.00 reg's add up and for many of you, before you know it, you will have registered a hundred or more names, costing about 900 bucks, with about as much chance of getting a serious return on your initial investment as me finding a snowball in hell.

The only pockets you are lining, are the domain registrars by registering such wanton and utter crap. 80% if not more of the names one see's on these forums, across the boards / forums are bloody rubbish, there's no easier way to tell you this.

Sure, you think the name you have chosen is God's gift to domaining, that it will earn for you, instant riches, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth. My only desire with this thread, is that I save some of you money and hopefully, in my own small way, help to up the standards with the domaining industry.

When you choose names, this is for you inexperienced guys and gals, don't try to think so far out of the box that you exclude many of your would be, potential purchasers. Names that sell are true two word generics that make absolutely perfect sense, as in, the kind of thing that someone, or a great many people are likely to type in directly to their browser window. You want direct traffic and no-one is going to find your name or find it in the least attractive if many of you, keep on choosing the utterly absurd names that loads of you are registering at present.

Think very carefully about the name that you are registering. Better still, do your research and buy from the start in the aftermarket only, this will stand you in much better stead for the future.

Ok, it's not for me to tell you all what you can and cannot do, many of you are just going to have to be allowed to make your own mistakes and that's totally cool, but here are some tools that might just help you to make a more informed decision, in your choice and registering / buying of new domain names.

To see recent sales of domain names with keywords of your choosing use:

http://www.dnsaleprice.com

To check a lot of the stats of a domain name, including alexa ranking, valid page rank, number of links, age etc use:

http://www.dnscoop.com

To check on many other general stats use http://www.estibot.com

To look for expiring names with traffic results use:

http://www.tdnam.com

For another fantastic forum and to look into domaining a lot further, check out and read http://www.dnjournal.com

For complete newbies go to:

http://www.namenewbies.com

And:

http://www.namepros.com

For the latest .co.uk prices go to:

http://www.domainprices.co.uk

The most secure place to register your names is generally considered to be:

http://www.moniker.com

At Moniker you can also search for 500 plus names at a time under many extensions.

In providing this info, I'm just hoping that a few of you might save yourselves some decent amounts of dollar and not register absolute rubbish. I hope some of these tools are useful to you, if you do need instructions to use any of these linked sites, feel welcome to pm me and I'll do my best to help out in my spare time, any of you that I can. If it's a common question, I'll post into this thread again.

Too, if any experienced domainers want to contribute to this thread, please do so, with your own words of advice and/or caution for newbies just entering into this industry sector / links etc.

All the best to all of you.

Kindest regards and best wishes!!

Mark Magawr

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After you've finished said reading, you may want to read the replies given.

Now are you still going to cast your aspersions on my motives?

Hmmmmmmmm?

 

Do you have anything better to do?

GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON sheeeet

 

Of course I'm over it, there's nothing more to be said, what are you a schoolteacher telling me where and/or where not one can post, reply?

If you don't like the thread, don't post on it, pretty simple really.

 

well after reading till the end it appears,

magawr is trying to warn everyone and currently not in stable stage. his mind is full of wills to show us ALL the proofs he got that he forgot how to approach step by step and orderly. It is VERY reasonable for the seller/buyer/trading party to be really concerned and to share the expereince/struggles/burden one's facing.

on the other hand, RichUser's account may really be hacke dor may not be and his defending proofs are not enough and not much convincing of account being hacked. But I am NOT saying he is guilty or anything since none is proven.
If Richuser's not guilty, the other party and others should let this go. However if Richuser's guilty, most actions till now appears that he is taking advantage of the other party's "rapid & unorderly posts due to excitement of warning all of us members" to try to convince us the other way.

Suggestion to both:
Calm down. And rethink the whole thing.
Then come back later and get to the main point.
So there will be no unneccessary arguments and suspects from others.

 

You guys should sort this out privately... jeez.

 

Have a read of the other thread on: Are American's Stupid?

That could be a much more entertaining discussion.

What you perceive as anger is another misplaced assumption, I'm as calm as can be.

Pick any number of subjects under the sun, and I'll thoroughly enjoy a great debate with anyone, that is the point my dear fellow.

They didn't school us in Cambridge for nothing you know.

How about we talk about a nice safe subject, how about climate change? It's got to be better than particle physics and pure mathematics by any stretch of the imagination.

Life is a process, as is all debate, taking things too literally, or in a singularity is one of the greatest causes of man constantly disagreeing with one another, wouldn't you say?

Lovely weather?

 

Magawr you have made your point, namely warn us of Rich User.

I think everybody who reads this thread deserves a pint
from you I have a throbbing headache

If the scam had gone as planned then it would have been a different story
wouldn't it, but I for one would be terribly surprised if a three letter domain
had been offered for sale at a ridiculous price.

Its as if somebody is selling the latest RollsRoyce/Ferrari at a garage knockdown sale.

But newbies might have fallen for this scam and thanks to you for warning us.

But to expect the mods/admin to hold your hand in what it seems to be a
transaction between members is not the done thing nor we should expect it.
We are all grown people and we have to handle this our way.

Please get over this and we look forward to you contributing towards
the forum's knowledge.

Believe me this forum is bigger than scammers and not everybody here is
using this forum to cheat others.

Send the beer quick.

 

Mods and admin holding my hand, I hardly think so, not on your nelly mate, more than capable thank you very much of looking after myself.

Pours tea.

Sorry I hardly ever touch the other stuff. Get way too boisterous to even consider drinking a pint, half a pint gets me quite tiddly these days and the thought of a hangover, ughhhhh no thank you.

Done all that scene years ago, drinking, raves, the whole schebang, complete waste of time.

Tea is the best curative in the world, nothing beats it.

Did you know that tea was first ...

 

Btw, I did actually pick up a LLL TLD for the princely sum of $14 just 3 days ago, there's stll some bargains out there to be had, if you know where to look for them.

 

I never called you untrustworthy, that is something you are suggesting.

I merely was thinking that I would hate to see what you do in the case of an ordinary misunderstanding.

What exactly do you want to happen here? A confession? You want DP to ban him? You want him charged with attempted fraud of $1400?

Seriously, what is the purpose of all your posting? The warning to others was well made in the first post. All the rest is overkill.

 

No, none of those things now, because the reality is, it's not going to happen, so it's best as you say, the whole subject just being dropped. I made my point afterall in the very first post, since then it's just been more hassle than it's worth.

Saying that, if it happens again with someone else, I'd most likely do the same again, although as with any situation you do live and learn, and I'd likely try to handle things a little differently.

Have you read the toothache thread yet?

 

I love these kind of threads . Man I can't believe i actually read every single post. 8 pages .

- Prilep

 

*raises his hand

"I still have my question left unanswered by the accused...."

Only if RichUser could give a satisfactory answer to that. maybe his lawyer could

 

RichUser, send one email to hacker and invite him here,will have nice drama here.

 

ohh this will be pure fun

 

Woah! Finally the last page! hic!

It's like Death Note, we have Mark as L and RichUser as Light.

Pretty nice for a psywar, both of you really.

What was it called? Failsafe? If all else fails?

Anyways,

It should be guilty until proven innocent. hic!

Cheers! for the both of you!

 

That's called iTrader abuse. What makes it fraudulent iTrader is that you (Richuser) claim your account was stolen by a 'hacker' via a keylogger (I don't believe a word of it, btw - you were nailed for sure on the fonts thing) and that the thread in question was created by the 'hacker'. Therefore, you cannot and should not be able to post any iTraders for anyone regarding that thread since it was not made by you but by someone else, ergo, you are leaving iTrader for someone else's thread, which is not allowed by the forums' very clear rules on iTrader abuse.

The fraudulent iTrader you left for Magwr is attached.

 

In regards of the itrader, I recieved one for a thread that didn't start, the least I could do is return the itrader.

To the one who asked about if any of my payment processors account got hacked, the answer is no. Awhile I was keylogged, I thankfully didn't log into any of them.

 

I disagree with your first point. The thread was created from your account and considering that no conclusive proof of your account being hacked has been produced, I'd say you (or your account, to be precise) deserve(s) the negative iTrader. After all, it's not a stamp on your forehead; it only serves to warn people that your account has been the base of fraudulent activity, regardless of who was using it. In that light, the iTrader you've left for magawr is simply an abuse of the system as mcfox has noted. This should definitely earn you an infraction. And, as I've said already, I'm not trying to label you a scammer but it's quite anomalous that a hacker should be so kind to you. I've lost many an account to phishing/hacking scams and perpetrators of those didn't display an ounce of the kindness or patience that your "hacker" has showered you with.

But since nothing is proven against you, I'll keep my lips sewn over this.

And @magawr... I can see the situation from your eyes but as far as forum rules are concerned, I'm not very sure the mods are under any obligation to get involved in this matter. Please don't bother arguing any further with people here; you've made your point. We've all been warned of RichUser's shady practices (By RichUser, I mean the account; not necessarily its owner)... so let's all just forget the whole thing and move on.