source Well, we always hear how Israel prosecute their own terrorists just like Palestinian ones but than again I never heard about Palestinian terrorist who is responsible for deaths who got life sentence and than been pardoned after only 6 years. Did you heard of someone like that? I would like to see source. Thanks.
I guess you don't remember when Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas allowed Ahmed Saadat, head of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, free reign of the prison and forced out the international monitors to allow his escape - those actions, in turn, forced Israel to capture him so he would not be freed. I REMEMBER. Don't pretend the Palestinian side never does anything wrong.
I guess you are upset at Arafat then. He sold him out to save himself with the International agreement requiring his imprisonment. Regardless, I am confident the head of the PFLP terrorist group deserves to be in jail.
I respect the PA decision, despite they took it under pressure from US and Israel, but that does not mean he should be in prison. keep your bluhbluhing about "terrorism" ... all Palestinians are considered terrorists in your eyes if they decided to resist occupation, this is not new, this is the case always when the occupied people resist occupation, this is how it was in US when they were fighting Britain, this is how it was in the racist South African regime, and many other cases.
No all Palestinians are not terrorists. The ones who are involved and support terrorist attacks are. It is not just my personal opinion that the PFLP is a terrorist organization. The PFLP has been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, the European Union, Canada, and Israel.
nothing new or surprising here, The PFLP has not been designated as a terrorist organization by Palestine and the rest of the world.
I prefer to be on the side with these nations who call the PFLP terrorists. You can have Zimbabwe, Syria, Iran, et. al., on your side. * Austria * Belgium * Bulgaria * Cyprus * Czech Republic * Denmark * Estonia * Finland * France * Germany * Greece * Hungary * Ireland * Italy * Latvia * Lithuania * Luxembourg * Malta * Netherlands * Poland * Portugal * Romania * Slovakia * Slovenia * Spain * Sweden * United Kingdom * The United States * Canada * Israel
I prefer to be on the side with international law, that gives the right of resistance for occupied nations.
This is not resistance, this is terrorism! What International law sanctions these acts? The hijacking of an El Al flight from Rome to Lod airport in Israel on July 23, 1968. The plane was diverted to Algiers, where 21 passengers and 11 crew members were held for 39 days, until August 31 Gunmen opened fire on an El Al passenger jet in Athens about to take off for New York on December 26, 1968, killing one Israeli mecanic An attack on El Al passengers jet at Zürich airport on February 18, 1969, killing the co-pilot and wounding the pilot The bombing of a Jerusalem supermarket on February 20, 1969 The hijacking of a TWA flight from Los Angeles to Damascus on August 29, 1969 by a PFLP cell - Two Israeli passengers were held for 44 days Three adult Palestinians and three boys aged 14 and 15 years old threw grenades at the Israeli embassies in The Hague Attack on a bus containing El Al passengers at Munich airport, killing one passenger and wounding 11 on February 10, 1970 The bombing, with a barometric pressure device, of a Swissair flight bound for Israel, killing 47, on February 21, 1970 On September 6, 1970, the PFLP hijacked four passenger aircraft from Pan Am, TWA and Swissair on flights to New York from Brussels, Frankfurt and Zürich; and on September 9, 1970, hijacked a BOAC flight from Bahrain to London via Beirut. On December 22, 1975, the PFLP lead by Carlos the Jackal raided the OPEC office in Vienna. They assaulted the meeting of OPEC leaders and took over sixty hostages. On June 27, 1976, two PFLP and two Germans seized Air France Flight 139 and diverted it to Libya and Uganda. The killing of Meir Lixenberg, councillor and head of security in four settlements, who was shot while traveling in his car in the West Bank on August 27, 2001 The 21 October, 2001 assassination of Israeli Minister for Tourism Rehavam Zeevi by Hamdi Quran. A suicide bombing in a pizzeria in Karnei Shomron, on the West Bank on February 16, 2002 A suicide bombing in Ariel on March 7, 2002 A suicide bombing in a Netanya market in Israel, on May 19, 2002 A suicide bombing in the bus station at Geha Junction in Petah Tikva on 25 December, 2003 A suicide bombing in Bikat Hayerden on May 22 , 2004 A suicide bombing in the Carmel Market in Tel Aviv on November 1, 2004
did you notice the big jump from 1976 to 2001, I'd love to hear why from you, or you just copy and paste blindly? lets get to the killing of the terrorist Rehavam Zeevi, in 2001 Rehavam Zeevi, sorry for not saying RIP, cos he does not deserve it for his criminal history (don't be fooled by Tourism Minister), was in East Jerusalem when he was assassinated, which is considered occupied land, and which makes him a legal target for the resistance. I find it very strange, how you justify the releasing of a terrorist like Menachem Livni, in 1990, with an event that took place in 2001? It would make more sense if a Palestinian told you, about the release of Sa'adat (which did not happen btw) by saying: I guess you don't remember when Israeli Government allowed Menachem Livni, (1990) the well known terrorist, free reign of the prison and forced out the international monitors to allow his escape - those actions, in turn, forced Palestine to capture him so he would not be freed (2001). I REMEMBER. Don't pretend the Israeli side never does anything wrong. with a note that there were no international monitors in Livni case.
1. I never justified the release of anyone. Learn to read. I answered a question you posted in the OP. 2. I have no illusions about Israel being perfect. Why just yesterday I posted the thread about how they shot an bound prisoner with a rubber bullet. It is you who is a mouthpiece defending the terrorists. Please show me where you have ever condemned a terrorist attack on Israel? I was just answering your question and letting you know that the Palestinians are not immune from letting prisoners out. That's all. Everything else I have posted is in response your questions. I am not trying to prove anything or justify anything. Just providing information to balance your one-sided posts. Have a wonderful day!
but the balance was not made, Palestinian are not an occupying force, so they have the right to resist. Israelis on the other hand, are an illegal occupying force, so they have no right to set courts. Sa'adat incident took place in 2006 ( I made a mistake above, it was 2006 not 2001) despite that you mentioned it to comment about the release of Livni which took place in 1990. Sa'adat was not released btw, he was kidnapped by IOF in 2006 from Jericho prison.
Well, I did mistake asking my question. I should make it more clearly: do you remember when Israel pardoned any of Palestinian terrorists sentenced to life in prison?
I don't know much about the Israeli pardon process, but I do know that they have certainly released Palestinian prisoners sentenced to life in prison. Why just last week Israel released Palestinian citizen Samir Kuntar who has been sentenced to 5 life sentences. Now he is a FREE MAN. Is that what you meant? Are you as bothered by Kuntar's release as you are about Livni's?
Like always when you can't answer or don't know the answer you try to change the subject. And I am not bothered with Livni's release at all. Where did you get that from? I am only using his pardon as example how Israel differently treats terrorist if they are Israelis or Palestinians. Terrorism is terrorism no matter who's doing it, right? Well, as I can see not in Israel...
I am bothered by both their release. Terrorists should rot in jail. Unlike you, I don't care what religion or what side they are on. Livni should never have been released, nor should Kuntar.
Hey! Let's make it personal shall we? Can we change subject too while we at it? Btw everyone can see how much you are upset because of Livni's pardon! Oh the outrage! But let's get back to subject: do you remember any of cases when Israel pardoned Palestinians terrorist sentenced to life in prison? While you at it can you say that Israel makes diferrence based on which side terrorists belongs too?
....and the beat goes on. I guess Israeli's and Palestinians will play "Remember when you did this?"..."Oh Yeah, but what about when you did that "? until the end of time. Can't say I understand it all and I mean no one any disrespect, but nothing will ever be solved as long as the emphasis is always on, WHO STARTED IT !