Report: Iran suicide bombers ready

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by latehorn, Apr 16, 2006.

  1. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #21
    Can we just nuke Iran already? :eek:
     
    ly2, Apr 16, 2006 IP
  2. latehorn

    latehorn Guest

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    #22
    Ok, stuart is a scotty name but anyone can take it as a username.

    After seeing your reply in the thread about "Ignorant americans", I must say that I'm sorry for calling you troll. I do however fail to see your point in this thread. You started by attacking Arnie and then kept fighting. Do you have any arguments about this issue? Why are you against it? Is there any false information in the article I posted or so?
     
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  3. latehorn

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    #23
    Perssia has a great history, making the country to a big parking lot would not be a good thing. I hope you meant bunker busters.
     
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  4. stuart

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    #24
    My argument was with this attitude. You are talking about innocent people living under a dictatorship and a lack of information. Its these people which will suffer. Saying things like "lets melt it down." just seemed in very poor taste.
     
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  5. ash1

    ash1 Active Member

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    #25
    this is pretty serious and crazy, lets just see what happens next, all i know if iran keeps acting the way they currently are acting, their might be some conflict
     
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  6. bigdoug

    bigdoug Peon

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    #26
    Well, it looks like we will see WW3. Love your family and friends as much as you can. We will see a full scale draft of Americans within a year.

    Time for a Beer...



    D
     
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  7. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Stuart

    "racist crap" this is your full and only post of what you call defense of Americans.
    I see it rahter as an excuse or hideout for your further activities.
     
    Arnie, Apr 17, 2006 IP
  8. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #28
    An imagination of Prophet Mohammed used primarily for two reasons:

    To have a torture chamber for all the kafirs (unbelievers and people of other religions)
    To terrorize people into accepting Islam.

    The purpose of Hell in Islam is not to punish the Muslim wrong-doers. Because, for them Mohammed will recommend paradise, beautiful virgins and young boys on the Day of Judgment. His recommendation is final and Allah cannot deny it. It is available to all murderers, rapists, arsonists, cheats, thugs, pickpockets and pimps provided they are following Islam. On the contrary, a flaming Hell is reserved only for all Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhist, Jews and Christians, no matter how pious and God-fearing they may have been.


    Koran 9:29
    Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

    Koran 8:12
    Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

    Koran 9:5
    "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

    Koran 9:73
    Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home: an evil fate.

    Koran 4:144
    Believers, do not choose the unbelievers rather than the faithful as your friends. Would you give Allah a clear proof against yourselves ?

    Koran 47:4
    When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.

    Koran 5:33-34
    The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, merciful.

    Koran 5:51
    Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong-doers.

    Koran 5:57
    Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pasttime...

    Koran 5:64
    The Jews say: 'God's hand is chained.' May their own hands be chained! May they be cursed for what they say!...

    Koran 9:29
    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued.

    Koran 9:30
    The Jews call 'Uzayr-a son of God', and the Christinas call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are decluded away from the Truth.

    Koran 98:1-8
    The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.

    Koran 22:19-22:23
    Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Sclading water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'

    Koran 18:28-30
    For the wrongdoers We have prepared a fire which will encompass them like the walls of a pavilion. When they cry out for help they shall be showered with water as hot as molten brass, which will scald their faces. Evil shall be their drink, dismal their resting-place.

    Koran 40:67-40:73
    Do you not see how those who dispute the revelation of God turn away from the right path ? Those who have denied the Book and the message We sent through Our apostles shall realize the truth hereafter: when, with chains and shackles round their necks, they shall be dragged through scalding water and then burnt in the fire of Hell.

    Koran 43:74
    ..The unbelievers shall endure forever the torment of Hell. The punishment will never be lightened, and they shall be speechless with despair. We do not wrong, themselves.

    Koran 55:41-52
    ..That is the Hell which the unbelievers deny. They shall wander between fire and water fiercely seething. Which of your Lord's blessing would you deny ?

    Koran 76:1-5
    For the unbelievers We have prepared chains and fetters and a blazing Fire...

    Koran 73:12
    We have in store for the unbelievers heavy fetters and a blazing fire, choking food and harrowing torment: on the day when the earth shall quiver with all its mountains, and the mountains crumble into heaps of shifting sand.

    Koran 77:20-77:50
    Woe on that day to the disbelievers! Begone to the Hell which you deny! Depart into the shadow that will rise high in three columns, giving neither shade nor shelter from the flames, and throwing up sparks as huge as towers, as bright as yellow camels...Eat and enjoy yourselves awhile. You are wicked men..."

    Koran 8:73
    The unbelievers give aid and comfort to each other. If you fail to do likewise, there will be disorder in the land and great corruption.

    Koran 21:96-21:101
    ..The unbelievers shall stare in amazement, crying: 'Woe to us! Of this we have been heedless. We have done wrong.' You and your idols shall be the fuel of Hell; therein you sall all go down.

    Koran 33:7-12
    ...But for the unbelievers He has prepared a woeful punishment...

    Koran 44:40-49
    ..The fruit of the Zaqqum tree shall be the unbelievers's fruit. Like dregs of oil, like scalding water, it shall simmer in his belly. A voice will cry: 'Seize him and drag him into the depths of Hell. Then pour out scalding water over his head, saying: "Taste this, illustrious and honourable man! This is the punishment which you have doubted."

    Koran 52:1-52:15
    ..On that day they shall be sternly thrown into the fire of Hell, and a voice will say to them: 'This is the Fire which you denied...Burn in its flames. It is the same whether or not you show forbearance. You shall be rewarded according to your deeds.'

    Koran 31-37
    And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high amd would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds.

    Koran 56:52-56
    Ye shall surely taste of the tree Zaqqum. Then will ye fill your insides therwith, and drink boiling water on top of it. Indeed ye shall drink like diseased camels raging with thirst. Such will be their entertainment on the day of Requital!

    Koran 69:30-37
    We shall say: 'Lay hold of him and bind him. Burn him in the fie of Hell, then fasten him with a chain seventy cubits long. For he did not believe Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Today he shall be friendless here; filth shall be his food, the filth which sinners eat...

    Koran 2:39
    Those who reject faith shall be the companions of the Fire.

    Koran 2:89-90
    The curse of Allah is on the unbelievers... humiliating is the punishment.

    Koran 13:13
    ..He hurls his thunderbolts at whom he pleases Yet the unbelievers wrangle about Allah..

    Koran 58:5
    Those who resist Allah and his messenger will be humbled to dust.
    Koran 70:15-16
    The fire of Hell will pluck out his being right to the skull..

    Koran 5:10
    As for those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are the heirs of Hell.

    credit to http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/hell.html
    NOTE: The Koranic verses have been taken from works of Abdullah Yusuf Ali and N.J. Dawood
     
    Arnie, Apr 17, 2006 IP
  9. stuart

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    #29
    Arnie

    Firstly my apologies for getting so bothered by what you said but you are talking about a nation of people living under a dictatorship. Do you really believe a suppressed nation of people are bothered about getting nuclear weapons, my guess is they are not. These types of articles are used to spread fud. The focus should be on dealing with the problem (Ahmadinejad). Saying things like “lets melt it down.” does nothing to help.
     
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  10. latehorn

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    #30
    Actually most people in Iran is positive to the nuclear activities going on, even if they don't like the regime. They want Iran to have nukes in order to defend. Iranians is a very patriotic people that are praud over their country.
     
    latehorn, Apr 17, 2006 IP
  11. stuart

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    #31
    As President Bush said -

    How do you know they support nuclear weapons when they don't have the freedom to talk openly.
     
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  12. latehorn

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    #32
    Because I have talked with Iranians outside Iran :)
     
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  13. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Well Stuarts, their favorite toys will have to be taken away. And if everything else fails then this region where the toys are will be molten.

    I'd love to follow your thoughts and care, but I haven't seen any muslim coming up here pleading for education and help for the underprivilegded. Why? They are part of the muslim system and it wouldn't function otherwise and it is beyound our influence at this time.

    This is an open forum and we have had dozens of muslims here but no claims in the right way. Where are the reasonable muslims? Do you want me to answer this?
     
    Arnie, Apr 17, 2006 IP