I always hear the arguement that they contribute something like 800 billion to the economy, but that's not margin...margin at most is 80 billion ie roughly 10% of sales. Then you take in account the average schooling, medical, and policing...and you're already digging into the profit that actually makes it even a remotely justifible arguement. So essentially this battle you see in Congress is some Repubs wanting the cheap/subsidized labor, while the majority of dems are battling to get cheap votes/representation (ie 80% of poor immigrants vote dem)...unless they're Cuban. http://www.10news.com/news/9620142/detail.html SAN DIEGO -- Future costs for illegal immigrants in the United States will reach a half a trillion dollars, a Heritage Foundation researcher said Wednesday at congressional hearing in San Diego. The influx of illegal immigrants has effectively "imported about 10 million high school dropouts into the United States," said Robert Rector, a senior research fellow in welfare and family issues for the Washington, D.C.-based think tank. Rector testified before the House Judiciary Committee, which convened at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot for one in a series of hearings on illegal immigration this month. The hearings are a rebuttal to a Senate bill that House members believe will result in amnesty for illegal immigrants. The topic of the discussion was the fiscal impacts of illegal immigration. The National Academy of Sciences estimated that each immigrant will result in a $100,000 net annual cost to taxpayers. Rector said once illegal immigrants become citizens they can bring family members into the country, straining education and health care budgets. "This Senate bill will become the largest expansion of the welfare system in 30 years and it's the wrong thing to do," he said. Wayne Cornelius, director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies at UC San Diego, said tighter border security would not stop or even discourage migrants from crossing into the country. "Even if they are caught, they try again until they are successful," Cornelius told the committee. "Our research shows that 92 to 97 percent of them succeed on the first or second try." According to Cornelius, his research team interviewed 1,300 migrants over the last 18 months. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., the committee's chairman, said hospitals in the Southwestern United States are losing $190 million annually per year for uncompensated health care from illegal immigrants. Nineteen percent of federal inmates are not citizens, he said. Los Angeles County Supervisor Mike Antonovich said "illegal immigration tears at the moral and economic fabric of the country." "The fiscal drain is catastrophic," Antonovich said. According to Antonovich, 12 percent of the 10.2 million residents of Los Angeles County are illegal immigrants. Thirty percent of public health patients in the county are illegal immigrants, he testified. The hearing is one in a series being held nationwide at a time when the Senate and House of Representatives are deadlocked over competing immigration legislation. House Republicans beginning with Sensenbrenner argue that the Senate bill, which provides a pathway to eventual legalized status for some illegal immigrants, amounts to an amnesty. Democrats have dismissed the series of hearings as an election-year ploy not intended to produce genuine reform. Rep. Howard Berman, D-Van Nuys, questioned the rationale for the hearings. "These hearings are a con job on the American people," Berman said. "They want to avoid a conference (committee) because the bill splits their party and it is an election year." Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, said the hearings, 19 of which are scheduled this month, are "not a waste of time." Issa said the House and Senate are deadlocked between stronger enforcement and amnesty. Issa said he believes the House will not get to a conference with the Senate on the issue before the November election. The We Are America/Somos America Alliance said in a statement yesterday that Wednesday's hearing would only "further delay a meaningful solution to the nation's immigration crisis." "Immigrants contribute to and participate in our society," it read. The group said the House Judiciary Committee hearings "are intended to associate immigrants with terrorists and present this hard-working community as a drain our our society's resources." Another Judiciary Committee hearing on immigration was held early last month at an Imperial Beach U.S. Border Patrol station. The next is scheduled to be held in Santee on Saturday.
Yep, Americans are going to be paying for the illegals. A large percentage of them will be on welfare, and will contribute to the high cost of health insurance and everything else. Anyone who believes illegals are helping the US are morons. They are hurting this country. They don't respect our laws, culture, or customs, and the US government is happy to let them come here. Of course, the Pan American Union is right around the corner. It won't be too long before we are merged with Mexico, Canada, and South America.
I just crossed over yesterday to Mexico at El Paso. As I'm crossing the bridge lots of people standing looking down and laughing and whistling at the Rio Grande and the BP is turning back dozens of Mexicans. Its a big joke. They cross right over in broad daylight where there are tons of BP. No big deal....some will distract the guards and others will make it. Its a joke............ Ohh and just an hour ago I was chatting with my neighbor who came from Mexico. She smokes cocaine and collects Social Security, medicaid, medicare plus welfare, food stamps and goes to all the food banks for her gangster 15 year old son who is going to court in the morning for breaking a white boys nose at school. etc etc etc. I took her to register at college the other day and helped her with her pell grant. The whole 9 yards is payed for by the gov. Except when we got there she needed a $35 loan for her registration fee which she swears she'll pay back. wink wink.... Now while I know all of those things are far from exclusive to Mexicans, I just wanted to vent... I know many many fine Mexicans. I am pissed though that my own mother who is white cannot get medicare which she desperately needs when this little ho collects all the goodies cause she got high and drunk and flipped her car and has nothing wrong with her except a pin in her ankle and a drug habit.
Immigration is largly now just Mexico's scum. Aka the worst of the worst Mexican citizens that want nothing but a quick buck. They come here to work -- then leave. Better yet they come here and start up gangs that sell drugs, take over neighborhoods, and cause nothing but problems.
This issue to me...is probably the most important issues in the long-term. Unfortunately the dems that dislike this, don't push their political representives enough; and their political reps are just eager to replace their constituents with loads, and loads, of poor uneducated illegal immigrants. I'll say it now, and I'll say it again, dems would be marginalized faster had we not passed retarde 65 legislation on chain immigration...it's been a downward spiral since then...word gets around
I am watching them move into my neighborhood. Here's the typical house: 3 bedroom house, 1400 square foot house, $600,000+ sale price. How do they do it? The answer is in the driveway and in the street, I have counted as many as 7 parking spots (and I assume seven incomes) being used and they're aren't only adults in the house. My wide open street has turned into an alley over the last ten years. I asked the city about housing regulations (these are single family residences aren't they?) and they replied they couldn't pass judgement on what a single family was. And this is a conservative area of consrvative Orange County. On the bright side, at least I hear the kids speaking English and I assume they or their children will assimilate better than the parents.