Repair extension domain name

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by yengkok, Mar 31, 2014.

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    Domain expert guru ... need help

    Can you pls enlighten me why .repair domain extension is so costly ... 7000 + on namecheap ...

    How much a domain with .repair extension will i be able to sell if i manage to register a good one

    mobile.repair
    electronics.com
    allmobile.repair
    howto.repair
    love.repair

    how good is the above domain names ... ?
     
    yengkok, Mar 31, 2014 IP
  2. iowadawg

    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    I would not waste time or money on this new extension.
    So many people will rush in, buy what they think are good names, and then, bam!

    OH, I see namecheap only wants $129.88 for a .repair domain.

    Reality hits big time!
    Like who is going to be the enduser?
    And what enduser would spend big bucks on a crappy and unproven domain extension?

    So many of these new extensions seem to be being resold to other domainers who hope to make money reselling them to other domainers!
     
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    Lavonta Active Member

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    I agree with iowadawg. Dot repair has no value. The extension is 6-letter long, and it would not become popular within the next 100 years. ;)
     
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    winnerdomains Active Member

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    Because, Donuts wants your money...
     
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  5. H0stZealot

    H0stZealot Active Member

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    Namecheap (as well as Godaddy and other big Registrars) are just trying to make a pool of names for further usage. .com name pool is almost depleted, almost all good names are already taken, why not reserving some in case these become a thing in a few years?

    However, Iowadawg is absolutely right. Everything depends on end users. .com was not considered big deal when it was imlemented, now it owns the market. It happened because people liked it. Domainers expect new gTLDs to do the same, so they register now to resell later. WIll they succeed? Time will show.

    Is it wise to invest now? I think it depends on your funds. In case you have $5 000 000 of free money and do not know where to spend - give it a try. If you live on a monthly salary...well... you may burn/ throw away this money as well.
     
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  6. gigalicious

    gigalicious Greenhorn

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    Because if they will not charge a huge fee they will not be able to .repair their costs. Don't fall to this hype. It will not .repair any of your problems or create any more visitors to your site. Stay with COMs, it's the most logical advice i can give you.
     
    gigalicious, Apr 19, 2014 IP
  7. H0stZealot

    H0stZealot Active Member

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    Unfortunately, it seems you are not able to read or unaware of the situation on the market. The reason for implementing new gTLDs is that .COM pool of names is almost depleted. Nobody needs 12-digit long names and 4-5-6-digit-long names are all taken. Some worthless crap like ghsgh.com may still be available, yet ALL worthy ones are taken (90% by Godaddy).

    You cannot stick to .com forever. You have to adapt or you will be bankrupt.
     
    H0stZealot, Apr 21, 2014 IP
  8. gigalicious

    gigalicious Greenhorn

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    Interesting points. I wonder if you count the domains from the . to the right or from the . to the left
    Because if you count from the . to the right you could see that perfect.photography for example is 18 chars long, meaning that .com is an embedded phrase to the head of most people, new gTLDs are not and willl not be in the near future.

    I also never assumed that .COM is the only one.
    If internet needed new suffixes then .net, .org, .pro should have gain a significant registration share.
    Now we baptize TLDs as gTLDs or a fresh new start or a breakthrough when history already repeated one time and the results were not positive.

    It's time consuming to say that gTLDs will be a failure when everybody needs a domain dream to live on.
    I don't want to do that. I just try to give more clues to people that are in the middle between OLD and NEW TLDs.

    The funny part is that with so many people rushing to them (gTLDs) it maybe a good investment from a registry POV and you don't have to be a .guru to see that.
     
    gigalicious, Apr 23, 2014 IP
  9. H0stZealot

    H0stZealot Active Member

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    I do not want to argue. I replied this question in this and several similar topics on this forum and on many other forums. I tried to be as non-engaged as possible to avoid unneeded criticizm, but it seems I have to state my point as clear as possible.

    In my opinion, new gTLDs are a toy for rich people, domainers with millions on their banking accounts. These people can spend $5,000 on domain registration and possibly gain another $500,000 in 10 years - or not gain. It will not matter much to them.
    Most of this forum visitors do not belong to this category, therefore - they should not waste their time and money on new gTLDS.

    Honestly, I think .com is the king now and can remain king forever. However, if the situation is to change in 10 years - I do not bother much. Any TLD needs a hosting to create a website, and any TLD will work equally well for this.

    Btw, I know .com counts for the length of the name, but this is only canonical rule even Registries do not always follow. For example, 1,2,3-digit long domain names like 1.com, WB.com, ABC.com are reserved by Verisign - feel free to read their corresponding policies (or ICANN ones). I contacted Verisign support center and they confirmed 1.com is considered 1-digit long domain name.

    However, 1,2,3-digit long names of other TLDs can be purchased for a decent sum http://www.website.ws/faq/pricing.dhtml

    Therefore, perfect.photography is 7-digit long NAME with 12-digit long TLD (.photography).

    With respect,
    Hostzealot
     
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  10. yengkok

    yengkok Member

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    I agree with Hostzealot ,
    Even I feel (for now), new gTLDs are a toy for rich people, domainers with millions on their banking accounts.
    But you never know whats gonna happen after 5 years ... coz .com domains are already exhausted.

    I happen to registered a few new gTLDs domain .. but I'm not a rich person , i dont know whether i'll be able to renew the same next year ... LOL!

    Domain expert here , can you pls estimate the price for the following Domains!

    Mobilerepair.guru
    howto.repair
    website.guru
    solar.guru

    Pls share your price expectation for the above domains !
     
    yengkok, Apr 27, 2014 IP
  11. H0stZealot

    H0stZealot Active Member

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    Names look fine to me, the price depends on the need of end user companies. How much would a mobile repair company like to pay for.guru name? (As far as I know mobile repair services are most often 1 or 2-person services that do not rely on Internet-promotion heavily). Howto.repair might be an interesting offer for DIY store or magazine portal, etc.

    I think these have a potential but it will require much time and advertizing to get in touch with possible customer. Good luck with that!
     
    H0stZealot, Apr 27, 2014 IP
  12. gigalicious

    gigalicious Greenhorn

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    Millions of traffic is lost on daily basis from people that still don't know after so many years that www. is not an essential part of the internet.
    People confuse the browser address line with google's query form.
    We as domainers can't memorize for now all the TLDs available unless we follow them as stockmarket observers do.

    What's the point to enforce my future website visitor to "learn" the new suffix when i can tell him even an "ugly" com domain. Part of that ugly domain is known to him (the suffix). Do i need to care and share a leaflet to educate him for the suffix OR i need a buyer for my products / services ?

    As a brick and mortar owner or any business owner can i risk a lost customer with a .guru or a .booroo website ?

    The "good" and "beautiful" domains OR the domains have been exhausted OR that internet needs a categorization is a known bubblegum of domain industry to create a USP (Unique Selling Point) at their Marketing efforts to rationalize this whole buzz.

    I would rather pay XXX,XXX USD after 10 years to get a proven and tested solution rather than registering a bunch of various gTLD crap now that will cost me few X,XXX.

    Even i deal with domains a little less than 20 years (i was at the first gold era but focused on some ccTLDs not at TLDs)

    I was there when "some" companies tried to liberate internet with the support of browser companies (few browsers back then) to connect with their database and bypass centralized registry servers, "others" that tried to create a website reference with normal speaking phrases (without dots) using nearly the same registry backend

    None passed the "viability" limit, they all went to the drain. Only ICANN supported registries thrived and profit.

    What's the point of my comment ?
    It's OK to register and keep these new gTLDs
    (even i suggest none of my customers to do the same. In fact i suggest them to leave all the test work to be done from these 1000s highly optimistic "beta-testers" aka gTLD registrants, and see the results and rip the profits)
    and renew them for as many years to see if they increased their value, but i can't stand many of wannabe-domainers that found an unregistered dictionary word at this virgin domainspace and thought they are the new Rockfeller with reasons like "but that .XXXX was old on sedo for $3,000".

    In any case, history is a significant part of human culture and if someone examine it with care will see the future of gTLDs. Now if you combine it with the universal law that prices increase from low offer and high demand you can understand many things, unless you don't want to.

    I will not say again the serious typo issue gTLDs have. It's a paradise for cases like the old .CM and Kevin Ham and how you can you can earn 300 Million USD from typos.

    Food of thought for those who have time
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cm
    http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2007/06/01/100050989/index.htm
     
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  13. H0stZealot

    H0stZealot Active Member

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    To sum it up - if you have to count your money - do not go for new gTLDs, let other (rich cynic domainers (able to suffer some losses without catastrophic results), or poor enthusiastic fools (dumb enough to try against all odds))to do it instead. Wait for 5-10 years and see what happens.

    I agree with that with all my heart. The only thing I disagree with is that .com names are not exhausted. They are. As I already said somewhere (maybe on this forum, maybe not), Godaddy registered about 20 million 4,5,6-character long names (even the senseless combinations like hgyjf.com) and now wait to re-sell them for a much higher price. 7,8,9 and 10+ character long .com names can still be picked up, yet most of the users consider them of less value ( though true domainers and SEO specialists know domain name length has nothing to do with domain popularity or usefulness).

    Therefore, depletion of .com pool of names exists more in human minds, rather than in real state of events and 15-character long names can perform as well (or as bad) as 5-character long ones. Yet everybody have to gain their profits.

    Did you know, that ICANN(the non-profit Internet overseeing organisation) requires applicants for becoming new Registries a decent sum of money? They pay to register their claim, then to process the data, then to establish hardware base of operations. Of course they have to get their expenses back, so they promote these new .XXXX names as new wonders of the modern world.

    Are these names so good? What will be their SEO behavior? Is there a steady niche for their use? Registering these names nowadays is like sailing to find new lands was back in 14th century. We know of Christopher Columbus and Vasco da Gama - but how many brave captains died at sea? Or how many became bankrupt? Are you ready to be one of them? Then - fair seas and a following wind!
     
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  14. gigalicious

    gigalicious Greenhorn

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    ICANN requires 250K USD per application and usually they charge from 0 - 5,000 the registry consultants to fill this application. I know it
    I was thinking to fill a gTLD application with one friend that wanted to invest on this.
    However the uncertainty of the launch created a fuss at the ROI and we dumped the whole project.

    The only thing that i disagree with you and maybe it's my fault too, but when i mean COM i don't mean literary the COM suffix but all the suffixes that existed before gTLDs. If a COM is taken then there is NET , BIZ , INFO , PRO, TV and the rest. If there are ALL full then yes there is a need for more but never happened or will happen again in the next few 1,000,000 years.
     
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    I agree with you in general, but the situation is as follows. Godaddy, Namecheap, Name, Domain, DomainName, Dotster, Network Solutions, Moniker, HostGator and other main providers do not offer the list of all available TLDs. They offer the main 5 mostly, or up to 10, ot up to 100+ like NC and GD. However, most often not more than 10 TLDs are offered by registrar.

    And these are almost always taken (by godaddy). Who needs an available, yet unpopular extension? Everybody needs .com! SO, common customers think the market is depleted, despite the fact it has nearly no limits.

    The reason to introduce new gTLDs is to find "a new .com". It should be as appealing, as simple and as convenient. And, most likely, there will be none. But people try to do it nevertheless. Stand aside and let them try or join them to try cut a piece of a pie for yourself - that is the question.

    As I said somewhere before, I do not care about extensions much. I sell hosting and any TLD or gTLD needs hosting to publish a website or use email service, new ones comply with standard DNS system, so they can be implemented and will work nice with our current hosting hardware and software. That is all.
     
    H0stZealot, Apr 28, 2014 IP