@Religious People

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Johnny Inferno, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. Sepehr

    Sepehr Peon

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    #61
    go read some books and you'll know where they came from!
     
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  2. bfebrian

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    #62
    for me, to have a religions is like to have an insurance.
    we don't know for sure.

    if god do not exist, is not really a big problem.
    but, if god do exist, is good to have one. :D

    *if we can have multiple insurances, but we can only have one religion*:rolleyes:
     
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    #63
    Ummm...it is widely suggested that Adam and Eve were coffee coloured as far as skin complexion went. Where you get White Caucasian from I have no idea. After the time of Nimrod and the Tower of Babel, God scattered the people to other places on the earth. Of course, people were very imperfect by this time as the offspring of Adam and Eve procreated and the imperfection percentage increased. Ever heard of "Chinese Whispers"? If you have, then you can apply that principle to geneology as far as inherited imperfection goes. You get the idea?

    Predestination and lack of free will is not something taught from the Bible. I suggest you lookup the word "Omniscient" before using it. Omniscient may mean knowing but in no way way means deciding.

    Go read your dictionary before starting to use words you don't know much about. I understand some people like to think God is all knowing and makes our decisions for us but what on earth would be the purpose for that? It does not make any sense at all and it is not what the Bible really teaches. The way you are talking shows me you have not read the Bible, or MOST of it you have not read. If you studied it effectively, you would not be saying these ridiculous, wayward and unfounded remarks about God. It almost sounds like you are quoting other people's words.....hmmmmm...now that I think of it....that's most likely what's going on....

    Come up with something original and based on the Bible. Not other men's thoughts.

    Col :)
     
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  4. pladecalvo

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  5. pladecalvo

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    #65
    If it makes it easier for you, substitute "car" with 'body', "garage" with 'hospital', component with 'human organ' and "mechanic" with 'surgeon'. Other than that, try to use a little imagination! :rolleyes:
     
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  6. pladecalvo

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    #66
    Ok! Let's go with that.
    The car you get is designed with faults by the mechanic, the manual comes in 50 different versions which are contradictory, the advice given in the manual depends on who you listen to, although you have been promised free repairs for life you can never actually get to speak to the mechanic face to face and although the mechanic has said that he will be with you whenever you drive, he's never actually there but instead, tells you to just believe and have faith that he's there.
     
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  7. pladecalvo

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    #67
    Why don't you save us some time and tell us?
     
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    #68
    Hey. You are the one labeling God as one who is controlling everyone's destinies. Not me. So, you are saying you know all bout God huh? You know what he thinks? How clever of you.

    The bit about coffee coloured people. Do you even know that the Bible says about Nimrod and the Tower of Babel? errrrrr...it's sort of the point I was making. Meaning, you are quoting the Bible to be not true without even studying it for yourself. Just like millions of others who put the Bible down but have no idea what is in it.

    I find what is in the Bible to be true. I can only say that because I have studied and continue to study the entire Bible and everything I can get my hands on that backs up the Bible.

    All in all. You spout your view that you know God's intentions are as far as individual destinies go. I will just keep studying HIS word. Hope you find peace in your intentions. I feel you just want arguments and that's not what I am here for.

    I only comment when people say incorrect things about God or the Bible. My comments will always be according to the Bible. If you don;t believe in the Bible. Just say so. What is there to fear about saying just that?

    Col :)
     
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  9. DevilHellz

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    #69
    I don't believe in the bible.
     
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    #71
    Everyone ignored what I had to say about knowledge...
     
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    #72
    Which post dude? I'm too lazy too go looking!:D
     
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    #73
    OK! I found it. Yes you're right, satan did give us knowledge. Good on him for that! He also told the truth whilst god lied. God told Adam and Eve that they would die the day they ate the apple but satan said that was a load of cobblers and that it wouldn't happen....and he was right. They didn't die that day.

    Stand by for the Christians screaming....."No, No!! You don't understand! That bit of the bible doesn't actually mean what it says, it means.........."
     
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  14. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #74
    I found the part of "Adam and Steve" to be funny. Was that a typo or on purpose ? :D
     
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  15. Jackuul

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    #75
    Purpose. Anyone ever look up how God was apparently obsessed with fecal matter?
     
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    #76
    Jackuul, like i said before i know one day i will see u sitting right next to me at church, my gut instincts are pretty accurate l;ol
     
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    #77
    I find it amusing how you said "I don't believe in the Bible" but here you are trying to stamping your authority about what's in it....LOL

    Yes. You will get some screaming that, but not me. The theory is quite correct although one thing is inaccurate. There was never a mention of an apple. It was simply "fruit". You can see for yourself in the Emphatic Diaglott.
    On the other part. How did God lie? You need to see word for word what was written in the Bible. He never said "die the day". What he did say was "But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die".

    This meant Adam and Eve were "going" to die. In comparison to "not dying". Now, the Bible does say that Adam died at the age of 930 and it does not say when Eve died. If it does not say "Eve died", are we to presume she is still alive? No. Logically, we can safely assume she died sometime between the day of "taking of the fruit" and before a thousand years of age.

    Please don't tell me you think the Bible is saying God's "day" is our "one day". This would put you in the category of people who believe the earth was made in 6 literal days. If you do believe this. Then do some wider reading. I can provide some reading material for you if you so wish.

    Col :)
     
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  18. Jackuul

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    #78
    Go sit in the corner with the other delusional children of "God".

    I maintain my stance.
     
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    #79
    Come on. Enlighten me. ;)

    Col :)
     
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    #80
    That's impossible unless you bastardize the definition of one or both of those terms. As it is, they are completely unrelated.
     
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