Please answer the following questions: - What is "correct"? - Why is st0x "incorrect"? - Are you challenging the laws of the universe when you deny that 120kg shared between 4 people is 30kg each which (shared between all 4) is a liftable amount? - Why do believe in such witchcraft and wizardry when you know it doesn't exist. If it did exist it would be all over the news, papers, t.v, internet etc... st0x points are 100% valid and you're encountering them with your beliefs that can all be done away with in 40 minutes of a science lesson...
After learning what is behind this. Not a chance. Would not touch it with a barge pole! You obviously have not been reading all of my posts and st0x's posts. As far as "correct" goes, it is in regards to st0x's claims about my beliefs. he simply makes up stuff and he is way too lazy to find out the truth about me. The laws of the universe? Interesting, who told you what you "think" those laws are? In no way did I ever imply that 4 people can not lift one 120kg person. Man, do I have to repeat my self AGAIN!!! READ MY POST!!!! I said "with their "FINGERTIPS" and I said "WITHOUT ANY EFFORT". Now do you understand the context?? Surely you do??? When was the last time you lifted up 30Kg with just the edge of your fingertip s without effort?? (Be careful here, you don't want to be caught out!). Col
He doesn't need to prove it, because he said it happened. Just like he doesn't have to prove god exists, because he said he does. In his tiny little mind to make something true he simply has to say it's true. I know that kind of logic doesn't work for normal reasonable adults, or even retarded chimpanzees, but to the religious, It makes perfect sense.
I am not the only one who has experienced this. This was done in front of me several times. I even partook in it by being the one in the seat at one time. But hey, don't go by what I say. Ask around. My experiences of this was decades ago. I am sure there are thousands, if not tens of thousands who have witnessed or have done this at one time or another. Same responses again st0x. Surely you can come up with something different? With you being so "intelligent" and all?
You see, by blatantly lying about what you think you saw you're only cheating yourself in life my friend I read all of your posts and st0x's, it's a philosophical question mate, do you know what philosophy is? I'm asking you to define correct in your own words...you see, you got your meaning of "correct" from your crazy religious friends, st0x got his version from rationality and logic Why don't you want to record it on camera? I'll tell you the answer, because what you described is total nonsense... And what do you mean by "The laws of the universe? Interesting, who told you what you "think" those laws are?"....I can prove the laws of the universe through precise mathematical equations, scientific knowledge, logic, years of study and tests in physics and I can use my brain to think about what these laws are instead of having them preached to me from a priest Thanks...
Oh no. Not another claim for lying. Where do these people come from?? You still did not read my posts. You do know how to read don't you? Or is this a lazy claim? Look....whatever! Go believe what you want! OH! and for one thing. Priests don't preach to me...PERIOD! Do you see how incorrect you and st0x's statements are about me? Of course not. I am dealing with.....words fail me to describe the both of you.
No, words fail to describe you...in that whole paragraph you didn't explain one thing, or back yourself up. You simply said that we didn't understand....well yes, i do understand what you said and IT IS TOTAL BS. Understand? You can't back yourself up so you just say things like "whatever! Go believe what you want!". This is an argument and you can't back yourself up, technically this is where I am usually the one correct
So, what you are telling me is you won't go and find out? Look, label me all you want. I don't really care what you call me. All I am saying is "ask others about it". If you refuse to do that, then that is your decision. If you feel your head belongs in the sand then so be it.
Look Col, It looks impossible but it's not for 4 people.. The weight, as you put, is respective of the gravity. Try lifting 10 KG of weight with your both arms in a lift that is going upwards at the speed of 400 MPH, you wont be able to lift it. And try lifting the 60 KG of weight with single arm in a lift going downward at the speed of 200 MPH, you will easily lift it. A single person will find it hard to lift 30KGs with finger tip because the the center of gravity, as we call it gravitational point, will be just opposite of him, when he will try to lift the weight. But when 4 people try to lift the weight while standing each side of the weight, the Gravitational point is just in center of them thus distributing the weight equally between them.. It's a physics theorem that can easily be proved. Yet you can deny it and keep your faith on Rituals and God or whatever, but that doesn't make that truth. Lets see the power of Ritual and God. let alone the 4 people, take 6 strong men, and ask them to stand in a semi arch facing the sitting person, and put their finger tips under his feet and do whatever ritual they want to do, and then pick him up. Anyone can bet whatever he wants to, they wont be able to lift him up even few inches above the ground, let alone over their head.. And as you said effortlessly, thats not true at all. The effort is there but not as much as you believed it would be. so you THINK its effortless, while it's not.
I agree it is a stupid belief, or don't you evolutionists know what you believe? Just search for "evolutionary ancestors of whales" and "evolutionary ancestors of birds". You will find the belief is hoofed land mammals and reptiles. I've already posted several links about the "cosmological argument", or you can search for it. Because of the law of entropy and the law of cause and effect a person can believe a) "nothing" created everything b) God created everything. Evolutionists believe "nothing" was the first uncaused cause that effected all the order we can observe in the universe. Christians believe God was the first uncaused cause that effected all the order we can observe in the universe. The second makes more sense because God exists apart from the universe, He can be the first uncaused cause. Laws of the universe don't apply to Him. This is backed up in the Bible history where God refers to himself as "I AM". God exists, simple as that! On the other hand, "Nothing" doesn't exist at all! So of course the laws of the universe don't apply to "nothing". So it's your choice really, believe in God, or believe in nothing. After I realized Evolution was a lie, and that the Bible's account of history was supported by what we see in this world, for myself I choose to believe in God, and the hope of eternal life that Jesus promised. I've lost nothing but a life of heartache, and have the hope of gaining so much more.
Col, a lot of things might seem impossible to do, but although it seems impossible - it does not mean you have to blindly turn into believing in god as an explanation to the unknown. For example, how do you explain that this man stands still while THIS is being done to his testicles ? He's using Chi (Ki, Qi, whatever), which is concentrating the energy from his whole body in one specific place. These monks do some pretty amazing things. Some monks even master an ancient technique, in which a person is balanced by only 1 or two fingers for quite some time. So, what you say is not actually impossible to do. However, if you say that, for example, 4 kids who are 10 years old each of them lifted a grown person using their fingertips, while not practicing anything related to such things, then there is something to it that you probably don't know.
This is utterly inaccurate. Evolutionists, as scientists, use empirical method to move from the known to the unknown. The formerly unknown becoming known, it prompts further digging to new unknowns. That the Big Bang Theory works quite well in explaining natural phenomena does not impute some sort of religious status on it, in the same vein as Yahweh and his Hosts. It remains a theory, prompting further inquiry. That said, there is considerable scientific evidence - real world testing and modeling - that strongly suggests the plausibility of the Big Bang cosmological model. No such real world data exists supporting a model based on a divine creator, at least none that I am aware of. One way says, "dig further." The other way says "faith."
Silly me. Must have imagined the whole thing with about 30 different people in about 6 different places. What was I thinking?
Col, I guess I must admit I'm a bit confused. Can you please refresh, what were the circumstances of your experience - prayer, nothing, what? I mentioned several posts back, I've done this, when I was but a child. I did it without any kind of training except a few minutes talk - long enough to talk about relaxation, body placement, use your body not your arms. Likely, under a minute. We certainly did it without prayer, or any kind of spiritual conjuration. Can you please refresh, what were the circumstances in your experience(s)?
The circumstances were I knew nothing about the Bible back then. Nothing about spirits etc.. Neither did the other people. Some had heard about doing this and just plain tried it. Then, of course, tried it in different places. Other people's houses, out in the backyard etc.. But according to some. It can't be true and must have imagined this. As I said, go ask around, Google it, whatever. I am sure this experience was not just for me. Let alone it was 20 years ago. Word would have got around over that period of time. It might be called something different by now??? I agree some men in some intensive training can achieve miraculous looking feats with fingers, toes etc.. But this was done by nobodys. No training. No prayer. From what I learn from the Bible. I know what made this happen. It was not God (if that's what you think I am getting at).