I have seen christians, hindus, sikhs, jews, .... and people born in every other religion except Islam become atheists. I don't see any Islamic atheists. I mean people who are born in an Islamic family. Why is that ???
Um, well #1 how many Muslims do you know compared with Christians or others? In my personal opinion, I have seen many more members of the Jewish faith losing their belief in religion...Not necessarily their belief in God. This isn't exactly a bad thing. Christians seem to be the ones who most readily will just accept there is no God and frankly, the majority of them weren't very religious to begin with. Many families would only go to Church on Christmas and Easter; to which I'd say go the extra mile and don't show up at all. Jesus did say, after all, that were are supposed to worship in hiding, in our closets, in the dark; not in front of a large crowd of religious entertainers/fakers.
I knew this point will be raised. Even then, why dont we see even one guy claiming... TRUE TRUE TRUE!
Well they would probably say that it's because it's the only true religion, but the rest of us know its because thier little book instructs that they be stoned to death if they even attempt to question in.
God = Religion Religion = God This quote is meaningless/self-contradictory. I get really upset when I hear this thing over and over again from people who are atheists but just wouldn't like to admit it. Incredibly, being a "man of faith" is considered something positive: instead of being something to be ashamed of, believing in ridiculous stuff in 2009 is a honorable thing, so people who don't really believe in anything i.e. politicians present themselves as "men of faith", and the crowds follow. This is really a tragedy. And: Atheists are those who do not have a religion. Hence, the title of the thread is meaningless nonsense.
Um, that is absolutely daft. Religion does not in any way shape or form = God God does not in any way shape or form = Religion Man made one, not the other Broaden your idea of what God means. How can you criticize something you do not even understand?
Rushdie is an Atheist and i do have many Muslim friends who don't believe in the idea of God.Either you don't have too many Muslim friends or you just came to a false conclusion out of ignorance.Also,I don't understand the point behind your title.
there are many. who ARE muslims, and who have lost their faith in GOD. Lets be practicle here, 90% of those guys out there who go around blasting bombs and shooting people dont do it for their religion but for what they have lost in their lives. Do not interpret my saying as the method they have undertaken is right. what i mean to say is that the reasons are not religious. so technically, they cant be categorised into atheist terminologies. but then, thats just me.
And now in English please? Man made up both. means to you (=the reason to live for?) ? to me (=nothing)? to my neighbor (=heck knows) ? or to a tibetian monk (=heck heck knows)? Enlighten me. Before you write more rubbish, I suggest you have a short look on how the terms are defined in wikipedia: In "Religion": In "God": With merriam-webster dictionary, your situation looks even more gloom: Religion = God God can not exist and has no meaning without a religion that "promotes" it. Religion can not exist without a god that it "promotes".
There are ppls who born Muslim ( every new born babies are muslims in the world ) becoming atheists too
Philosophically, if you "claim" to be an atheist you are acknowledging the argument for the probability of a God/Creator, so therefore you are not atheist. The only true atheist would be the same type of person who is actually humble. The humble person does not know they are humble and a true atheist does not even contemplate a God. They would have no knowledge of that concept. Even primitive people seek the knowledge of their universe and in doing so collectively create their own vision of a god/gods to represent their belief system. In order to not have a desire to seek out this knowledge in some form one would have to have a great mental impairment, and I have been around severely mentally handicapped people who believe in God without any prompting at all. It is just a natural event in human existence. People are born with a desire to seek their creator. (They are not born to seek religion, as another poster described). Whatever you want to label it, God, Allah, etc., each person born seeks the knowledge of their existence and in doing so contemplate the idea of God. So those who talk of atheism as a religious concept are simply agnostic, they are not true atheists. I didn't make this up either, this has been discussed on many levels by people way smarter than I am. I am sure that there are people of all faiths who question their beliefs at some point. It was noted that Mother Theresa often questioned what kind of a God could let so many people suffer. And I am sure there are great Muslim people who have at some point given question to their faith. But, if they were ever of the mind of God/Allah/Jehovah and then they decide there is no God, they are not atheist, they converted to Agnosticism. That is a belief of "Maybe there is, maybe there isn't, but I choose to say there isn't" sort of thing. When you contemplate a "choice", then you are probably not atheist. And... Yes I would marry mdvasanth86 if that is what you really looked like. I am very superficial, I guess..
Get a hold on the topic before you post replies. Its self explanatory in the post as to what i mean by religion of the atheist. Dont talk too much. How are you doing ???? And thanks for the book. Thanks for the link.
That doesn't make any sense at all. All you need to do to be an atheist is lack the belief that a god exists, like you lack the belief that fairies exist. You not believing in them doesn't mean you acknowledge the argument for the probability that they exist. You've been to this forum before then? that's not really an argument for the validity of the claim is it... that "severely mentally handicapped people" believe in it. If anything it shows how rediculous the claim is. I'm sure we could find severely mentally handicapped people who believe in all sorts of bollocks for no good reason, that's kind of a speciality of mentally handicapped people. What people seek is answers, some just happen to lack the capacity to find the true answers and instead opt for made up ones. When understanding things like cosmic expansion, natural selection and special relativity is a bit hard it becomes easy to say "a magic man done it". Agnostics are atheists. Everyone except those who believe that a god exists are atheists. atheism is the lack of a belief in the existance of god. a = without theism = belief in a god