I am just blatently copying a thread at another forum I use here, but this thread is worth replicating over here, since it seems so many members here like throwing stones from their glass house... Now, does this forum allow us to embed the youtube videos? (the answer seems to be no) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBAPbOWLxc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X16OTEOk4TA&eurl= See the original thread here: http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=170&t=14877&hl=&s=