Religion first or Nation first?

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Where lies your loyalty? Country First or religion first

  1. Country first

    17 vote(s)
    44.7%
  2. Religion first

    9 vote(s)
    23.7%
  3. Don't know/don't care/Neither

    12 vote(s)
    31.6%
  1. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #21
    My opinion would be country first, I prefer a secular country rather than a country based on any religion.
     
    wisdomtool, Jan 12, 2008 IP
  2. dudorino

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    #22
    I'm loyal to my country and I don't believe in anything religious.
     
    dudorino, Jan 13, 2008 IP
  3. Toopac

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    #23
    I agree, then with myself being an atheist i would say country.
     
    Toopac, Jan 13, 2008 IP
  4. Joe Blow

    Joe Blow Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Neither - both religion and nationalism are artificial constructs designed to control people.

    Look after yourself and your family first.
     
    Joe Blow, Jan 14, 2008 IP
  5. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #25
    What do you feel about the opportunities and security your country provides for you and your family?
     
    The Webmaster, Jan 15, 2008 IP
  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #26
    Yes, as long as they can pay their own way and respect the rights of others.

    I don't believe in the authority of religion or nation. I believe in ideals such as liberty and freedom.

    I support the U.S. because the U.S. has a long history of supporting liberty and freedom and is doing so across the globe even as I type these words. If the U.S. changed it's position regarding individual freedom, I would change my position towards the U.S.

    I oppose certain religions because they oppose liberty and freedom. If those religions embraced individual freedom, I would cease my opposition towards them.
     
    Will.Spencer, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  7. joey112

    joey112 Guest

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    #27
    Has to be a combination of both affected by different circumstances and scenarios. 1st i put nation. Because my nation mainly has the same religion. But this question is different for everyone.
     
    joey112, Jan 17, 2008 IP
  8. Joe Blow

    Joe Blow Well-Known Member

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    #28
    You mean in return for my tax dollars? :D

    They provide a service I pay for. Nationalism has nothing to do with it.
     
    Joe Blow, Jan 21, 2008 IP
  9. joey112

    joey112 Guest

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    #29

    Agree. You pay tax. You get defence. Rather automatic.
     
    joey112, Jan 22, 2008 IP
  10. Rohit patel

    Rohit patel Prominent Member

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    #30
    Well I don't care about this. Whatever you belive but it should be good for world and Humans. I think world is God's own land and there is no country or no religion for me.
     
    Rohit patel, Jan 22, 2008 IP
  11. joey112

    joey112 Guest

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    #31
    Totally agree. Even though i love my country. God comes first. Its just land when you think about it. And were all the same kind "humans".
     
    joey112, Jan 22, 2008 IP
  12. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #32
    How many of you guys (Who voted the third option) believe that your country should dismantle the armies, stop collecting tax and providing services (like Hospitals, Police, Schools etc), stop making the law and trying to enforce them and should leave every human by his own?
     
    The Webmaster, Jan 22, 2008 IP
  13. joey112

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    #33
    Mate. That would be absolute mayhem.

    We would have gangs and armed militias running the place.
     
    joey112, Jan 22, 2008 IP
  14. Plazimot

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    #34
    ... gimme a break:eek:

    Nation of course
     
    Plazimot, Jan 23, 2008 IP
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    leet Notable Member

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    #35
    Actually you give me a break.
     
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    #36
    religin is first for me
     
    meghabassi, Jan 23, 2008 IP
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    #37
    My religion affects my opinion and values. Therefore, when I go to the voting booths I naturally try to find someone who believes similar to myself. It is the beautiful thing about our country.
     
    PHPGator, Jan 23, 2008 IP
  18. Joe Blow

    Joe Blow Well-Known Member

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    #38
    I voted the third option and I don't believe this. I don't see how anyone could and I'm not sure of what your point is.

    I'm just not one of those "My country right or wrong" drones.
     
    Joe Blow, Feb 2, 2008 IP
  19. Bolkie

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    #39
    I voted country first. But I'm not sure my country will still exist in the future bacause of all this European Union stuff.
     
    Bolkie, Feb 2, 2008 IP
  20. erolelcott

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    #40
    ah, its gotta be the country 1st!!
     
    erolelcott, Feb 2, 2008 IP