Religion Bashing

Are we allowed to express that God needs a good seeing to for all the misery in this World if willing to face up on even terms sawz?

Bearing in mind that's not bashing any religion, but just trying to express some feelings about a higher power that may have a plan we may not understand but perhaps it should understand more RE individuals.

 

I think it is good that you have finally taken notice of this. But your actions should speak louder than words.

This is not just an American Forum, people from all over the world and all religions visit this.

In my opinion just closing such threads is not the solution you should delete such threads and give final warnings to the thread starters.

Such threads give bad name to your forum and I haven't seen such chaos any where else.

 

Somewhat telling that you view his post as an ultimatum aimed only at one side of the equation. The perpetrators are not limited to one nationality or one religion.

 

And old guy once told me (about my age now)

Never discuss religion or politics you will lose friends.....

 

My Dad once told me - when in your local EG the Pub or local drinking hole avoid 3 subjects >

Football - Religion -Politics

Admiteddly he was and is an a hole at times - but wise words me thinks

 

I do think this needs some clarification, especially the part that I've placed in bold. To give an example, islamic (sharia) law says you should amputate someone hands for theft, would you consider this wrong to criticize? If we posted a thread about it, would you consider this disrespectful? I think if certain individuals only posted thread after thread of topics that would put muslims (or whatever religion) in a bad light, I can see your point. But to clarify, are we never to criticize any aspect of religion all? To ever challenge a religious belief or say it's wrong? The fact is I don't automatically respect someone's belief, though I do tend to treat the person with a measure of respect. For the most part, I try to steer clear of personal attacks. However, I do criticize or challenge ideas, and really that's all that religion is, is an idea. Why would this particular idea be worthy of inhibiting speech, whereas others would not? What if someone is bashing America? What if someone is bashing Israel? There has been many threads here bashing America and Israel. Can we report posters for bashing the Zionists? What if it's offensive to me when people bash Libertarians, Republicans, or Democrats? What about bashing atheism, or religious people who say they are going to hell? What about those who bash sexual orientation, and are critical of gay people? Many people that post here are non-religious, many agnostics and atheists. Wouldn't it be discriminatory in a way, if we said the important things to a religious person are immune to criticism, but the important things to an agnostic are not? I hope this is not too confusing. I totally like and respect you WisdomTool, this is not to challenge you in any way, but this is just what was on my mind after reading your post. Would you please clarify?

 

Members always have the option to ignore the thread.......

However, if someone asks for an opinion...that may be a horse of a different color....

The old saying...if you don't want to know ...don't ask.....

 

You cannot discuss religion without someone questioning and always in every case every where it always leads to where it appears to be bashing it.

If someone is going to be offended by it, DON"T COME VISIT THE TOPIC. What is your point, Mod? What is the point of having a Religion topic if some is being punish for, is it because someone got offended? Let be, quit deleting things that you find offensive, most of us are adults and no one force us to be here, it is AT WILL.

STOP DELETING THINGS THAT OFFENDS YOU!!! (Don't be a commi)

 

Perpetrators are in every religion and in every nationality. Everybody should learn to respect other people's beliefs.

I think the mods keeping a blind eye to such perpetrators is the main problem.

Maybe they should just shut down this whole section if they can't deal with the nasty minds. That would be an easy solution.

 

Every body? Even a religion that promotes hate? When a certain religion members will not condemn the act of stoning, raping, unfair treatment to women and many other things that a normal human beings find it to be wrong, then it is really hard to give respect.

 

Actually blaming the problem on the mods is BS. Blame idiots that try to shove their respective religious beliefs down each others throats. You know... dullards that say things like "This is not just an American Forum" when according to their next post it doesnt have a bearing on the topic.

 

Good decision I would say - No point getting some extra hatred from digital point where in the world there is plenty of it.

 

but where do you draw the line between flaming and spirited debate?

 

And that's the way religious leaders teach their subjects to be.

Any threat to their ideology. Any information that might open people's minds should be censored.

Perhaps if this weren't an American forum you could expect it to be closed down. If it were in China perhaps. or Iran.

And I think trying to determine what constitutes religion bashing is a bad idea. Especially if the staff here doesn't lay out precisely what they mean. Not because we're children and can't figure out when we've gone too far, but because it's far too subjective.

Not only do different sects within each religion have different tolerance levels for what they'd consider offensive, but it's even different for individuals within those sects. For example: Obamanation's avatar is considered by some to be highly offensive. I'm talking people got real death threats offensive. But to others who practice the same religion it's "meh".

So what I'm saying, is that if you're going to do this, i.e. implement new policy, you have to put out those policy guidelines. If not to define what the high end line is -- but the bottom end. Where does it stop? Because if you don't you're going to end up with even more people feeling empowered to send you a complaint every time they lose a debate and feel "bashed".

 

I agree with Rebecca.
Criticing religions, no matter how harshly, is perfectly legitimate.
Personal attacks are not.
Anybody who makes a personal attack should be infracted and/or banned. Everybody who bash on religion in general is maybe "not nice", but I think that its legitimate.

Exactly.
http://www.almoltaqa.ps/english/index.php This is the forum of the Hamas. I tried to post there. Every post (not only thread) is subject to moderation. My post was, not so surprisingly, rejected and my account deleted
We don't want to get there.

 

Divide up your paragraphs please Becks - are you trying to give me a headache babe?

 

Easy Decoder; Rebecca is my girl - paragraphs or not

The whole thing is pointless anyways; I get where Wisdom is going, but it wont happen; every thread here will end with Muslims fighting with non Muslims - it's just how it goes - and until you ban everyone it isn't changing. I'm not condoning it, just being realistic.

On that note Wisdom, are people allowed to campaign to have posts removed? I've heard it might be against the rules, but it's been happening to me of late. Just asking.

Let's all just hope eventually P&R is more about logic, debating on shite - not just random QQing that one god is "right" and another is wrong.

You know - or trying to tell all of us non religious folks we're going to hell. That's kind of dicky. >.<'

 

Oh sure Alexis... now you're goin' to hell for saying "dicky". :-p

 

Listing a few of the example problem threads / titles would help in the debate.

One way or another only one religion / non religion will remain in the end and surviving the assaults is part and parcel to the final Judgment whatever is done.