This is where I say you're an idiot and I can't believe I accepted your friend request on here last month! On that I say that you are completely wrong - you are also wrong in most other things you said above. But it isn't worth arguing with you any more because you wont listen. At all. I acknowledge the good things about marriage AND about living together, whereas you are only obsessed with marriage. Also not everyone WANTS their partner to be dependent on them. (I've had partners dependent on me like 110% - it's draining.) Now, and more importantly; 1) You twisted what he said. 2) You don't insult someone's parenting when you have NO fucking idea about it. 3) I do have an idea about his parenting, I think he's an excellent father to his daughter. 4) When you have kids I hope you too are insulted for it. This thread is now officially a train wreck x joke.
You are saying that I am idiot but the truth is the truth if you don't want to believe than its ohk but you cannot reject it.
You are an idiot - and yes, I can and DO reject it. You just insulted a person's abilities as a father when you don't even know him! That is deplorable and you should kick your OWN ass for doing it. Fucking disgraceful. This forum is for debating and discussing; not refusing to provide facts, lying, then insulting someone as a father!
Yeah i know this forum is for discussing but i don't know why are getting angry I have just replied to what you or some other person. If you think I have insulted some one or than m sorry.
I question your sincerity. You insulted/questioned Rev's abilities as a father without knowing anything about him, his partner or his daughter. You need to debate by providing facts. Personal insults such as that are not right at ALL. The whole discussion has been based on what you believe about marriage, that it is simply better - but not on facts. It isn't something that can be argued when based solely on what one thinks is best, that gets no where. Either way, you need to learn not to make personal attacks - here we tend to accept attacking belief systems, religions, etc. - but a personal attack on Rev as a father is not so acceptable. Do you understand?
I have not attacked on personal beliefs i have never targeted a single individual i have always point on as a general. As you told we have to debate on discuss your views and same i have done.
I am telling you that it is OK to attack beliefs and such. You did however target one person, Revelation's Decoder. Reread my post which quotes what you said about him and his "youngone". I'm out of this thread.
You are mentally ill Jackob You have no right to say I do not love my child because I am not married Shame on you, you freak
I am an atheist, but even in my birth religion live-ins are totally OK. I think live-ins are a great way of getting to know a potential long-term partner as divorce's can be quite expensive (for a man )
For a man? HAHAHAHA. Helvetti, as I get to know you better I feel the urge to have you know me better. I'm a chick - my last two separations I was considered De facto, or married by common law (living with a partner a set amount of time, 2 years here, counts as being married more or less legally) - they cost ME money. XD
We have no such thing here, if a man ends up divorcing his wife he pays her and any child he fathered maintainance (housing,food expenses and other neccessaties) for the rest of their lives and also 50% of his income earned/assets acquired during the duration of their marriage. As for women...uh.. they can do whatever they want!
What a terrible system (for men) - is it less common for women to work high paying jobs than men where you are?
True in most places I've been. Child support payments are based on relative income, regardless of fault in the divorce, and are completely different than alimony(money paid to spouse to support him/her). The Alimony normally stops once the wife gets remarried, though I know more than a few girls who opt to continually "date" instead of marry once they've landed the big fish. Its often the 21 year old pool boy who does nothing but work out every day, while the ex-missus supports him on hubbies money.
Women do work high paying jobs, but in couples it is *necessary* for the man to earn more than the woman (thats for the middle class and lower upper class, if both the partners are obscenely rich, then it doesn't matter whose more obscene ) relationships most of the times fail if the balance is not maintained.
How interesting - where I come from is more modern than that; no one really cares who earns more most of the time. Here relationships are actually more likely to fail if the couple are facing financial hardship; it's the number one cause of divorce here. I imagine there you also have people worried about gender roles? Or not so much?
For men yes, and as I said before women can do whatever they want. (In cities atleast, I haven't seen much of the rural areas to say about that)
That's a shame; it's good women can do what they like but it would be nicer with a supportive male partner.
No Helvetti, I did not. A supportive partner would not have an issue with their partner earning more money than them - it is a shame that some men do That is EXACTLY what I meant.