Relevent Ads - EXPLAIN THIS EXAMPLE

Discussion in 'Placement / Reviews / Examples' started by Superfuzz, Apr 30, 2005.

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    oK...i have posted this before and i saw that if you dont want to ad to be related to a blog, you should consider changing the name of the url from blog to something else. I changed the url from www.lazarusdesigns.com/blog to www.lazarusdesigns.com/news

    Now heres where it gets interesting:

    I backed up a copy of my blog to http://www.lazarusdesigns.com/Copy%20of%20blog/ just in case something messed up.

    I then created a new URL http://www.lazarusdesigns.com/news with the EXACT same content.

    If you click on the first link, ALL THE ADS are EXTREMELY relevent. However, the new url, has ads that all pertain to blogs. What the.....

    I know there is a filter and i have added all the blog filter ads, however, this is so bizare. THe content is the same, the url is different however, when i had it as just lazarusdesings/blog i had the same ads as i do with /news. THe only thing different is the %20 for spaces in the url.

    So then i decided to do another test. I changed the url to http://www.lazarusdesigns.com/Copy%20of%20news/

    (news is what is different again) and all the ads are blog ads, as before, not relevent. So what is it about using http://www.lazarusdesigns.com/Copy%20of%20blog/ that makes all the ads relevent????/
     
    Superfuzz, Apr 30, 2005 IP
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    oalhajjar Guest

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    You do have to give the adsense bot a few days to start delivering relevant ads.

    Be patient.
     
    oalhajjar, Apr 30, 2005 IP
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    SHT Active Member

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    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=13826

    It looks like it visits the pages in almost realtime. I have been busy working on a new site and just after making the pages, I add the adsense code, refresh the page wait a few seconds, then refresh again and I have relevant ads.
     
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  4. Superfuzz

    Superfuzz Peon

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    Correct. I dont know how much it has to do with the google bot because i have noticed the same as you. The ads become relevent immediately on the old link as soon as i made it Copy of Blog link. Before i made it Copy of Blog, the google adwords all related to blogs and skiing for some reason. But immediately after changing the url, the google links are all relevent. Adwords did suggest adding a robot.txt file to the site, which i did that also.
     
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    If the url is in the google index, ads become relavant very quickly since google already have some idea of what your site is about.

    If the url is new, Mediabot will visit and try to guess the ads needed for this url. The ads will not be as relavent at first. This will keep happenning as long as the page is not yet indexed.

    This is my observation of how ads are served up.
     
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    Ill look out for changes soon then, however, the url changed which doesnt make sense. I could see if the url was in the same place, indexed and never moved. But the difference is that the url changed and became different. That is when the ads became relevent.

    Even more so, i did an experiemnt where i took all the EXACT same files, and put it back to its original url (lazarusdesigns.com/blog) and all the ads went back to being NOT relevent. Took all the exact same files again, and made the url http://www.lazarusdesigns.com/Copy%20of%20blog/ and the ads were very relevent.
     
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    When the ad server does not find your new page in the index, it may use ads that would be relavent on the main site page.

    I think this is what is happening to you.
    You have a new page that is not indexed so google use relavency from your main site instead.

    As I understand it, your /blog url is indexed therefore google will serve ads based on previously determine relavency for that page.

    Google seems to have a fall-back plan.

    If having problem with determining what ads to show, use ads that would be relavant on the main page.
     
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    I don't understand the discussion here.

    Google's adsense bot may take several days to finally start delivering relevant ads.

    Some pages might quickly be indexed by their adsense bot and some might take a little bit longer.

    Since you don't know which senario your site will fall in, it's better to not touch anything for a few days and see if things clear up -- and things always clear up.
     
    oalhajjar, Apr 30, 2005 IP
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    I have a similar scenario that I'm wondering if anyone else has seen. If I go to www.mydomain.com, I get not so relevant ads. However, if I go to www.mydomain.com/index.php, the ads are pretty much perfect. Anyone experience this before? This is for a brand new domain that hasn't been indexed by anything yet, on which I've just placed a page.
     
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    I changed the content on one site and it took about two days before Google noticed the change and started serving up relevant ads.
    Up until then the adds were related to the old content.
     
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    Well i suppose i will wait and see. I just hate that each and every ad relates to Blogging especially when the content, url name, nothing in it relates to blogs. Plus, i must have about 100 blog ads in m filter, yet they still appear. Frustrating. I wonder if it has something to do with the way the blog is written. Im currently using a great blog program i came across that is free, at least for the basic. The paid one is cheap. I wonder if its that then. Its the only thing i could think it could be..
     
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    So i have a bit of an update. On my site www.lazarusdesigns.com/news all of the ads are still Blogs. Some , very few of the pages , when clicking on a blog READ MORE to read the entire blog because i only have a portion of it on the main page, have relevent content. I have noticed this on perhaps 2 out of 20 blogs.

    Perhaps its just taking its time crawling, i dont know. But it would be nice when it actually does it as soon as i created the blog.
     
    Superfuzz, May 4, 2005 IP
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    Superfuzz Peon

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    Thank you for your email.

    The best way to receive relevant ads targeted towards the content of your blog is by making sure that your blog contains a lot of text-based content.

    When reviewing your blog I found that your blog does not contain enough text-based content for our system to identify and display relevant Google ads. Please note that our crawlers are unable to derive meaning from images and dynamic media such as Macromedia Flash and JavaScript.

    I recommend that you include more text-based content on your blog to assist our crawlers in gathering information about your pages and determining relevant ads to display. Complete sentences and paragraphs are helpful to our crawlers in determining the content of a page. Unfortunately, we cannot guarantee the results of any changes you make to your pages. If you make changes to a page, it may take up to 1 or 2 weeks before the changes are reflected in our index.

    With regards to the differences you are seeing after renaming the URL, please note that the crawlers used by Google AdSense index content by URL. Our crawlers consider URLs such as www.google.com and google.com to be different URLs, so we may index them at different times even if their content is the same. We deliver Google ads to a web page based on the content on the page at the time it is crawled but as our algorithms change as well, you might see different results. At this time, crawling is done automatically by bots and we're unable to control how often our crawlers index the content on your site.

    For additional questions, please visit our AdSense Support site at https://www.google.com/support/adsense or feel free to reply to this email.

    We'd also like to encourage you to let us know how we can improve our customer support. Please take a few minutes to fill out our brief survey at http://www.insightexpress.com/s/Google.asp?uid=0&resetposition=true.

    Your input is greatly appreciated.


    And this is my response
    Thank you for the answers to my questions.... But in your answer you
    suggested that i need to put more text in the content of the website
    for the blog. But if you look at www.lazarusdesigns.com/news it is
    literally filled with text for each blog article. I have noticed that,
    on some of the the articles, when you click to READ MORE and then
    taken to that particluar article, there is sometimes relevent content,
    but not always. I would say 98% of the time, the ads all relate to
    BLOGs. I have looked in my code, and i see that there are some links
    that have Blog in the code, but very few of them. If i need to change
    those links i will.
     
    Superfuzz, May 5, 2005 IP