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Relevance of length of time site is online?

Discussion in 'All Other Search Engines' started by Steve MacLellan, Aug 15, 2005.

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    When search engines decide your placement in their index, do any of them take into account when the domain was registered and how long the site has been up?

    If two sites are similar, would the one that has the most history receive a better placement?

    Regards,
    Steve MacLellan
     
    Steve MacLellan, Aug 15, 2005 IP
  2. tresman

    tresman Well-Known Member

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    Yes, IMHO. But they also keep in eye on the regristrar and what's the site about. If the theme and the owner are are the same, the older tends to win some point in the SERPS.
     
    tresman, Aug 15, 2005 IP
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    North Carolina SEO Well-Known Member

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    The longevity, IMHO, is considered a much lesser issue in the overall scheme of things. I strongly believe that inbound links, on-site content (ex: title, headers, body content, alt tags, etc.) play a more significant role.

    When you get down to longevity, I feel that you are "splitting hairs". :)
     
    North Carolina SEO, Aug 15, 2005 IP
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    boohlick Banned

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    I agree to that... the longevity follows
     
    boohlick, Aug 16, 2005 IP
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    sji2671 Self Made Mind

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    IMO it can make a big difference.
     
    sji2671, Aug 16, 2005 IP
  6. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    It makes a difference with what you can do and rank for IMO. If a site has been online 5 years its more likely to have something useful (although not always the case of course).

    So old vs new - old is probably better. However, an old site with only a few weak links is never going to outrank a new site with decent links.

    Age of links also is a factor IMO
     
    Design Agent, Aug 16, 2005 IP
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    ajayr Active Member

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    IMO, it can make a significant difference. At least in Google. Considering that they are known to "sandbox" websites for months at a stretch, they would definitely give credit to the age of a website.

    For example, enter the keyword "smileys" in Google. The first two results have only 48 and 34 back links respectively. However, if you scroll down to the bottom of the two pages, you will note that they have been online since 1997 and 1996 respectively.
    (Read about this in SitePoint a few weeks back).
     
    ajayr, Aug 16, 2005 IP
  8. Steve MacLellan

    Steve MacLellan Peon

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    Thanks to everyone who replied. Besides this post I looked for an answer in other places too. Here is what I found out:

    At the Search Engine Strategies conference last week in San Jose, California, Rand Fishkin learned that Google places some new Web sites, "regardless of their merit, or lack thereof, in a sort of probationary category" for six months to a year to "allow time to determine how users react to a new site, who links to it, etc."

    Rand offered this advice:

    His article, 2005 Analysis of Google's Sandbox offers some good ideas.

    Best Regards,
    Steve MacLellan
     
    Steve MacLellan, Aug 16, 2005 IP
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    J.D. Peon

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    Google checks not only how long ago a domain was registered (throw-away domains are usually registered for a year only), but also whether the physical address is valid, how often the owner changes, what other domains are served by the selected DNS server, etc.

    J.D.
     
    J.D., Aug 16, 2005 IP
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    Wonder how they would verify whether the physical address is valid?
     
    ajayr, Aug 16, 2005 IP
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    One of my sites is in the google sandbox for the 2nd time in 3 months and its been online since 1999. Other site online since 2001 has not touched the sandbox in forever - and it has awesome ranking ability for items I choose to sell on it :)
     
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    If search engines want the results to offer the most up-to-date relevant content, how can they square that with some sort of aging delay/sandbox and potentially giving weight to older sites. There must be a very complex structure to all this.
     
    sparkimarki, Aug 21, 2005 IP
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    It can definently make a huge difference!
     
    cangiz, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    Yep, I think this is the biggest problem.

    If new content ranks well then old content goes down. Old content is often better structures, organised optimized etc..

    New content also = alot more spam.
     
    Design Agent, Aug 22, 2005 IP
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    tell me about it.. im going through all kinds of hell to get my new site indexed on google. despite the fact that it is unique and useful content not to be found elsewhere
     
    roseplant, Sep 10, 2005 IP