Rejected by DMOZ again...can anyone tell me why?

Here we go again. I've had this site for about 8 years and have been submitting to DMOZ/ Resubmitted a few months ago and found out tonight that the site "will not be listed" again. Does anyone have a suggestion, tell me what's wrong with the site?

 

to get awnser to your question you need reveal more details about your submission - category, fro example etc.

 

Site he is asking about is: pedalcarplus.com

About the reasons why - he can tell us a lot.

Have you tried to read the submission guidelines before submitting your site?
Or its easier to spam few forums and to lose editors time and efforts?

 

Not enough unique content. That's the most important thing. never mind the rules and all...just get more unique content.

However, you do have several threads on this already. Is there a reason for that? I do think your first thread on it would have been enough to figure out if there is a reason it is not getting listed.

And there are a string of threads about people seemingly knowing they are rejected. Are they sending letters out now?

 

Qryztufre
Per the link you supplied, I checked the status and was told "will not be listed"

I have several threads and comments on the subject, this one is on this latest rejection.

I see you have 3000+ posts...are they all unique?

 

I'm pretty sure I do not have multiple threads on the same subject...

Though, in your first thread on this, were you given any possible reasons as to the site not being listable?

 

How did you find out it "will not be listed" and to what categories did you submit it to?

The two categories I would submit it to are:
http://www.dmoz.org/Shopping/Antiques_and_Collectibles/Toys_and_Games/Cars_and_Trucks/Pedal_Cars/

and

http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/North_...an/Localities/R/Romulus/Business_and_Economy/

I'm not a shopping editor, but, I like the site, and see no reason why it wouldn't get listed. I'm no longer an editor, and the topic was interesting to me, so I took a look, which I wouldn't normally do in here.

The black background, from a viewers perspective, is not a problem. Photos do look better on a black background, especially with the vibrant colors on the pedal cars.

I would put my address and hours right on the front page. If you have a walk-in business, say so, and I would change the way you have your descriptions laid out, it's annoying and not easy to read. Put it in a block, or take it across the page for easier reading. None of these things would be cause for it not to be listed, and it doesn't look like it's an afilliate site (which would be reason not to list it).

It looks like you do custom work, as far as painting and lettering, so I would consider that a plus that you might want to state on your front page and maybe go into more detail about.

You might try to expand on the History of pedal cars, I'd find that interesting, and you should examine the other sites to see if they have something you don't that got them listed.

Something you could consider doing is to show the mechanism of a pedal car and how it works, that might be interesting. If you have a shop, I would show a few photos of either the exterior or the interior show room, or customizing area.

All of these things might help you improve the site, but are by no means any kind of guarantee that you'll be listed. If you have a place of business, and it looks like you might, then, you would qualify to be listed in both of those categories that I pointed out, because one is a Regional listing and one is a Topical listing.

Though your city doesn't have many listings, it doesn't matter to a search engine, a search engine doesn't prioritize listings by where they are located within the Directory, but by Topic, so it doesn't matter how many listings are in a category.

We don't give status checks, so where did you get that information?

 

Yes, I have been given reasons.
As you said, unique content. I have added 2 hustory articles and revised the classified section. No other site listed has any of thesem plus other "unique content"
I've also been told to get rid of the black background and have the site professionally designed. This reslted in a heated debatye between editors regarding site design effecting acceptance into the directory.

 

Again you are writing without reading.

"About the reasons why - he can tell us a lot." Addressed to you.

No idea why ?

 

Of course, there are other reasons a site might not get listed, like being an afilliate site or trying to get an edge on the competition by submitting mirror sites or redirects (which Real Estate, Travel sites, and Shopping sites are noted for).

That's why those and other areas of the Directory have such a backlog, it takes a lot more time to investigate them and catch the cheats.

Those kind of dishonest tactics are cause not to be listed, and most of us go out of our way to find such sites. It's usually a real pleasure to catch the scoundrels and deal with them appropriately.

One more reason why we don't become "more transparent".

 

Happy to see you crowbar

I am still wondering why he is asking here again; he asked in other fora, where someone named "999999" answered him. I dont know if this answer is correct, or not. What I know is that no official "site checking" is given.

And you, attick, are one brilliant example of why we must not answer to "status report" posts.

 

Ahh yes, I'm familiar with editor 999999, and the site he/she operates on. You can take that editors advice as being accurate, attick, whatever he/she told you. I've been known to give such enlightenment over there myself, for a short time.

I would say you've been given the answer to your question, and you need not persue it any further.

If it gets listed eventually, it does, if it doesn't you know why. No mystery.

 

And why is that budalata? Because a site owner/designer should just lay down and play dead? We shouldn't know what the status is on a submission because someone might be interested in what should be done before they resubmit. Maybe not everyone blames the editor for a rejection.

All of the observations and comments by crowbar are very much appreciated/ Thanks very much for taking the time to loonk and give your opinion.

budalata, your attitude speaks for itself. Was that a DMOZ requirement or did you pick that up along the way?

 

Is this a joke? Hope that you dont mean that editors have to write explanation/advice to webmasters how they to improve their sites? LOL !

 

budalata is correct, the Directory and it's editors owe you no explanations, none, nada, zip.

I am no longer an editor, and what I've done in giving you advice as an ex-editor is very rare. In fact, it's the first time I've ever done it, and only because pedal cars are a kind of cool and unique subject matter and I was interested in it.

Were I still an editor, my tone would be quite different, .

Mainly because, if you can't do it for all, you shouldn't do it for one. I made an exception this time, and now I'm beginning to regret it.

 

Did Dmoz email you to tell you this ?

 

No, they did not, we do not give status reports. He got it from a rogue site and an editor who operates under an alias, for obvious reasons. What he tells you is very limited.

 

No.
He wrote in other forum asking for status check. Q will be very happy to provide you the address

 

The site in question is no more or no less official then RZ, or DP for that matter. The ONLY official source of information is DMOZ.ORG and they are A) Not talking, and B) are rather outdated in many/most of their resources.

 

RZ is not official, but it is sanctified by the meta community and ODP administrators, which no other site is, and their stance on giving site status reports (after having tried doing many) is that it creates more questions than it answers and that it isn't helpful to submitters.

There are whole threads of site status giving in their archives, that I believe anyone can go look at.

If I tell you your site is waiting for review or that it has been rejected and deleted, how does that help you? Does it change the status of your site? No. Will that get it listed? No. Are we going to answer any further questions you have? No.

Two weeks later, you're going to ask the same question, right? In fact, you'll ask it every two weeks, won't you? Of course you will.

How is that a good use of editing time?

I would suggest you just submit your site suggestion, assume the answer is no and the site was rejected, and just get on with your life. If it gets listed, you'll be pleasantly surprised, and the world will be a fine place indeed.