Regain Googles Trust (rank)

Hi,

I have a site and a few years ago I used LV and Google worked this out and put a penalty on my site. Since then (like 12 months+) I have used 110% white hat techniques and cleaned my site up so all external links are themed etc etc

I still seem to have a poor trust rank. Is there any way to get google to make you trust me once again or is that ruined forever? I have one way organic links from all the top sites in my theme... Its a PR6 site which is 3 years old and has high ALEXA ranking.

Thanks

 

Without the url there is not much we can say.

 

Do you have any backlink to your site from .edu & .gov domains.

This can help you to boost your trust rank.

 

Where did you see your 'trust rank'? This is something I'd like to take a look at.

 

You can't see your trust rank, if you have it then you know about it.

Common symptoms include the ability to rank for anything with a 24 hour old page.

 

So this is at site level?

Presumably a 24 hour old page won't have many links, so ranking will be due only to on page factors?

Sorry, I hijacked your thread amaze

 

whats lv? Sorry, i looked around but cant find anything on it. Its prob something I will go "duh" on....haha

 

Hi,

I don't really want to post the URL but we have a penalty or low trust rank for sure...

We have an organic in article link (they bought some products from us and placed a link mid-article with NO other external links on the page, I was very happy when I noticed it!) from guardian.co.uk which is a PR8/9 and will have a high trust rank from google also we have 1 way links from everyone in the top 5 for 3 of our keywords as well as 2,000+ other links... We are DMOZ as well as Yahoo and have over 20 links from wikipedia (organic). We also have a PR6 with over 500,000 pages indexed (we have a forum as well). I don't see what else our site can do, its 100% white hat and 100% a legitimate company, infact a market leader in the UK for what we sell.

LV = linkvault.

Cheers

 

this leads to the next question anyone know of a fairly easy edu or gov link to get?

 

amaze, I had a site that had things related to Poker and Online Gambling. I also had a lot of outgoing links related to the subject 3 months ago I looked at my stats and my similar: in google only showed up gambling stuff. also I only had 1 backlink from my own site.

So... I deleted all of my bad/gambling pages. Sure enough a month or two after google now has me listed with nice related items, as well as 2800 backlinks. and my online business is making $2K/mo.

 

So to elaborate... all I'm saying is that try to figure out what's considered "bad"
and see if you have leftover pages, and wipe them ASAP.

 

Yeah we did a "clean out" around 8 months ago. We only have 18 external links on the WHOLE site. (thats with 500k pages indexed) and all ex links are themed and have a PR2+ and have been manually verified as "non-spam"... I think we still have a lingering penalty or low TR from our LV nightmare..

 

If I may asked what SEO techniques did you use that were "black hat" and contributed to your site losing the trust rank?

 

Does google demote the trust rank of a site based on an algorithm or based on "human review"? Does anyone know?

 

Google use both, it is just a matter of which method catches you in the act first.

 

I think primarily by algo. But humans are involved in your re-inclusion.

 

Can we get in touch with some "human" and find out why the rankings dropped (apparently for no reason) yet the page PR went up?

 

That's a lot of pages, obviously your site is a database driven site. Have you checked if you have created any duplicate problems for your site by mistake. For example pages with the same products with the only difference that you can sort them by different ways and all these ways been crawlable. The same product in many different categories leading to the same page but with different URLs etc

Are these links "sponsored" and if yes is it too obvious that they are sponsored?

Finally how competitive is the market that you are in? You don't rank at all (outside TOP100) or you just don't rank at the TOP10?

Edit: Just to add, you mention that you have a forum. From my own experience, I had two sites that were doing good and I decide to add a database driven "extension" to them in the form of mydomain.com/extension after a while I noticed that the "extension" was taking over the normal site results when using the site command (although most if not almost all of the links where pointing to the main sites) and my rankings where dropping so from the one domain I removed it and I left it at the other. The one site where I removed it regained it's ranking and is doing better than ever while the other one is somewhere lost in space. I am not suggesting you to remove your forum but if you are using it in a form of yoursite.com/forum it may be a good idea to redirect it to forum.yoursite.com to make a clear distinction between the main site and the forum since google treats subdomains as different sites. Of course take anything I say with a grain of salt, I am not an expert or ever claim to be an expert just adding a couple of thoughts