Recommended Video sharing Script | PHP

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  1. Toon-c

    Toon-c Well-Known Member

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  2. Bratzilla

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    #22
    A WP poster gives a very intelligent and detailed description:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/291049

    Translation: "use our solution, but you must use our hosting." By the way, as you know, 10GB is NOTHING for multimedia. If you don't mind your stuff being on someone else's server, you may want to look into just using the Revver plugin for WP.

    Another issue is, which ones allow both you AND your members to upload/share media?

    For WordPress (and correct me if I'm wrong, as I am NOT a WP expert), many if not most activities are individual-focused, though WP is now definitely moving in the direction of a more "traditional" CMS (meaning activities are centralized where all can participate based on access level).

    Again, the question is, do you 1) want multiple people able to do the same things on your site, or 2) do you want to be the primary person who "does stuff" while others can comment? If 1) is what you want, then you may need to go with a more traditional CMS.

    There is *ugh* the option of using PHPMotion, because at least it's free and has all the functionality you want, but I personally detest obfuscated code with a passion due many prior bad experiences with such. Pretty much ALL of the so-called "free" multimedia sharing scripts are encoded at least partially, or have some "gotcha" where the free version is barely functioning and you're required to shell out $$$ to get the REAL script.
     
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  3. Toon-c

    Toon-c Well-Known Member

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    And what about the answer in the same subject leading to http://www.kaltura.org/project/kalturaCE

    ??
     
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  4. Bratzilla

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    #24
    All I'm saying is, read the fine print. Be sure that you know where your files are going, and look for any and all "gotchas". You can try anything you want, really. Ultimately, you have to find a solution you're comfortable with. I always stress due diligence, but the choice is indeed up to you.

    Read the documents, and test it on your development server - it may work for you. Good luck!
     
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  5. wantbuy

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    #25
    great posts Bratzilla and stick to your guns on this anti-encoding issue or the "crippleware" that is free as just a come on to try to make you pay later for functionality

    we need a youtube type clone or similar that is free, and unencoded
     
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  6. Bratzilla

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    ::rant mode - locked and loaded::

    There are many reasons I loathe, detest and despise encoded PHP-based scripts. First off, encrypted software cannot be easily modified - it's always the part that's encoded that I somehow need to change. Not only that, but I have read at several boards all over the Web where a developer of some popular encrypted code disappears, and the site owners are left with dead sites, having to dump the code they BOUGHT to get their sites back running. Do you think the warez people are the ones who suffer in this situation? Nope, they'll just go on purloining software, no prob. It's the basically honest people who get stuffed. I don't want to hear another word about people "stealing" software as an excuse to encrypt a PHP-based product. Theft happens in the real world, too, so get over it.

    In general, I have a serious problem with anything that is hidden from me running on my server. And so do MANY web hosts, who have unwittingly hosted server attacks and other malicious activities due to, you guessed it, encrypted scripts running on their servers. Though many hosts do have Ioncube, etc., to accommodate their customers, many don't like it (I have actually talked to these guys and have been told that more than once).

    Speaking of obfuscation, I sometimes wonder if the real reason for the secrecy is to hide the code from prying eyes - those of a legal type. I've been doing a LOT of reading while searching for a good multimedia CMS, and boy the code wars get ugly. Let's be real - is it really an accident so many of these scripts look like YouTube clones? :: heh heh::

    Bottom-line: Actually create something innovative. I'm sick of "clones"! Time for a real multimedia CMS at this point. One with flexibility and a real API that I can plug into and develop my own extensions - stop hiding the system hooks from me in order to force me to buy your overpriced plugins! And don't try to force me to host my content with you.

    Quit trying to trick business out of me. Develop an open source-compatible financial model that is profitable. Have a two-tiered (or whatever) system - a FREE version, a REAL, FUNCTIONAL one, that people can use to get a taste. Then, have a PRO version for power users who want more. You can even sweeten the PRO pot by adding highly detailed documentation/instructions, a bunch of extensions, maybe some themes - all downloadable for a "subscription price" (both HWD and Community Builder more or less use this model successfully from what I can see).

    ::rant mode ended::

    Now, will SOMEONE please develop an open source, reasonably priced extensible multimedia CMS that supports file types IN ADDITION to flash video? Because I want to buy too. ;)
     
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  7. wantbuy

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    how is clipbucket coming for you bratzilla? a quick review here would be really really appreciated, as I am almost going to download it and install it and would love to hear your thoughts as I respect everything you have said here so far
     
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    PHPmotion works pretty well for me. I've used it for a while and am working on migrating from V2 to V3 (sometime soon which is why it looks like a mess lol.
     
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    By the say, Stroh, like the icon. :)

    PHPmotion unfortunately requires PHPShield to be loaded (yep, yet another encrypted script). Because of this and its licensing, many open source GPL platforms can't or won't officially support a bridge to it.

    Wantbuy, for some reason I had a LOT of trouble connecting with the Clipbucket site over the weekend. I'll check again in a bit to see if I can finally access the site. I have a lab all set up for it. I'll post back my findings to hopefully help all of us who would truly like to find a good, standalone solution. Also, since the code seems to be open (non-encrypted) per the developers, it may be candidate for bridging.

    We shall see. ;)
     
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  10. Bratzilla

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    #30
    I downloaded ClipBucket and uploaded it to my test server - an actual live development environment I use specifically for multimedia script development as all my dependencies are there (FFMPEG, FFMPEG-PHP, LLAME, MPlayer, etc.)

    To be fair, I'm testing it in THE hardest environment - as a subfolder and not at the root. In my opinion, any modern script should be able to work as a sub, as you could have WordPress, Joomla or Drupal as your main site platform of choice.

    Another thing I did not like - the entire installation is manual. There is no auto-installer, and therefore no feedback during the process to tell you, for example, what folders need to have which permissions, and that includes the SQL. Yep, you need to go into PHPMyAdmin (or whatever you use to access your database) and manually upload the SQL file.

    I'd love to review it... if I can get it to work. It's throwing a 500 Error even though I followed the installation instructions. This may mean that ClipBucket either must be run at the domain level (i.e., root domain), or a proper subdomain. I've installed simple packages like eFiction that run very well at the subdomain/subfolder level, so I'll see later on whether this is the issue - or if the HTACCESS file is doing something my server doesn't like.
     
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  11. Toon-c

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    I agree, the installation process was relatively difficult .. comparing ti vidiscript for example ..

    Anyway, my next test will be for phpmotion ..
     
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    #32
    Posted on another thread too, i choose the ClipCenter Video Sharing Script ( www.clip-center.com ) for myself, they let me modify all the main.css of one of the templates, and successfully installed it myself on sacitube.com .

    Everytime i had a question, somebody was available on Live Chat, or at the support e-mail.
     
    crazyh0rse, Nov 29, 2009 IP